Rachel Maddow Bashes Network She Once Tried To Join
FOX-ED INTO A CORNER
Maddow's Sheltered Life Comes Back To Haunt Her
*** NEW: WHILE ADULTS HAVE CHOICES TUESDAY, SCHOOLCHILDREN NOT SO FORTUNATE ***
*** COLUMNIST COMPARES HEROIC USAIR PILOT TO OBAMA ***
With a rapid rise accompanied by a generous helping of mainstream media fawning, it was only a matter of time before broadcast rookie Rachel Maddow began to trip over her own words. Isn't that how this kind of story always plays out?
Thanks to an unfortunate series of blunders and career mishaps, that's precisely what has occurred in a big way, all in the course of just a day or two.
At a dinner Thursday evening, for example, Maddow reportedly told hacks and flaks at a Television Critics Association gathering she's "never seen a show on Fox at any time, ever."
Isn't that a funny thing: just six months ago, before her debut as full-time MSNBC host, Maddow was pitching her services to the FOX News Channel, the very network she's now busy attacking in public. Looks like Rachel has just Fox-ed herself into a corner.
Earlier that same day, Air America Radio announced they were moving her talk show to mornings and cutting it to just one hour, raising speculation that it may be taped, given her evening MSNBC work and peculiar fear of taking live callers. Under previous AAR management, Maddow has already failed in morning drive.
When hosts are reduced to a single hour, by the way, it's usually a final stop on the way out of a station or network.
Finally, an overzealous producer also got Rachel into hot water, thanks to an embarrassing display at the site of last week's USAir crash into the Hudson River. Just as shaken, freezing passengers were being pulled from the frigid waters, they were solicited for appearances on Maddow's MSNBC program:
Ouch.
At the meeting with television critics, Maddow followed up her Fox-free admission with some knee-slapping observations (see, she IS a comedian, just as the mainstream media claims, the humor is merely unintentional):
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Really, Rachel: MSNBC is fair and balanced thanks to Joe Scarborough's mushy moderate (and sometimes quite left-leaning) views? That's side-splitting.
Her hyper-partisan network boss followed up with some choice gems of his own, claiming MSNBC is "less political" than Fox. These guys are a laff riot!
Given what we know about Maddow's background, should any of this come as a real surprise? Between the extremism of the (off the deep end) East Bay, Western Massachusetts, Oxford and Manhattan, she's spent her entire life hiding from conservatives and their viewpoints (occasional on-air jousts with populist Pat Buchanan really don't count).
And one suspects that if she could get away with it, she'd retreat to the Berkshires for good and make jam, or play with cats. So what is this really all about?
Top that off with an aversion to televised viewpoints from the competition and a picture emerges of a talking head without a clear idea of what the other side truly believes. Because she beats the fossilized Larry King in the 25-54 demo, however, the New York Times would have you believe she's the next candidate for sainthood.
By contrast, conservative talk radio's top stars have spent their entire lives studying (and most certainly living amongst) the left. The massive audiences they've generated recognize this quality; it has been key to their success.
Forget the doctorate (which in political science is a bloody waste of time), with this Achilles heel, why should Rachel Maddow be taken seriously?
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Maddow's Sheltered Life Comes Back To Haunt Her
*** NEW: WHILE ADULTS HAVE CHOICES TUESDAY, SCHOOLCHILDREN NOT SO FORTUNATE ***
*** COLUMNIST COMPARES HEROIC USAIR PILOT TO OBAMA ***
With a rapid rise accompanied by a generous helping of mainstream media fawning, it was only a matter of time before broadcast rookie Rachel Maddow began to trip over her own words. Isn't that how this kind of story always plays out?
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At a dinner Thursday evening, for example, Maddow reportedly told hacks and flaks at a Television Critics Association gathering she's "never seen a show on Fox at any time, ever."
Isn't that a funny thing: just six months ago, before her debut as full-time MSNBC host, Maddow was pitching her services to the FOX News Channel, the very network she's now busy attacking in public. Looks like Rachel has just Fox-ed herself into a corner.
Earlier that same day, Air America Radio announced they were moving her talk show to mornings and cutting it to just one hour, raising speculation that it may be taped, given her evening MSNBC work and peculiar fear of taking live callers. Under previous AAR management, Maddow has already failed in morning drive.
When hosts are reduced to a single hour, by the way, it's usually a final stop on the way out of a station or network.
Finally, an overzealous producer also got Rachel into hot water, thanks to an embarrassing display at the site of last week's USAir crash into the Hudson River. Just as shaken, freezing passengers were being pulled from the frigid waters, they were solicited for appearances on Maddow's MSNBC program:
(Huffington Post) A man who was onboard the US Air flight that went down in New Yorks' Hudson River Thursday spoke to media shortly after being rescued, memorably telling interviewers he was "scared as s--t" as the plane was going down.
After his interview, as he was attempting to leave the scene, he was asked two very different questions (by two different people):1. "Jeff, do you need to go to the hospital? Are you alright?"
2. "Jeff, are you interested in appearing on The Rachel Maddow Show tonight?"
Ouch.
At the meeting with television critics, Maddow followed up her Fox-free admission with some knee-slapping observations (see, she IS a comedian, just as the mainstream media claims, the humor is merely unintentional):
![](https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEih2FAm0R8OSz4evcHz3WdtP_Cb6f4-nGLPEe9VKnCcmZ8i_9iCB_GQhiD_FKayA2vGaXSx66iussabJrq_omsyuRouTjJYzb-GFDNzaPHZDNSHr5TY4C0ooCZEWCxWCRzR06D7/s200/Maddow+Hoover+1.jpg)
"The idea that there's any equivalency between us and Fox News..." she said. "Fox is a political experiment. Imagine them having somebody as liberal as Joe Scarborough is conservative doing their whole morning? It doesn't make sense."
Really, Rachel: MSNBC is fair and balanced thanks to Joe Scarborough's mushy moderate (and sometimes quite left-leaning) views? That's side-splitting.
Her hyper-partisan network boss followed up with some choice gems of his own, claiming MSNBC is "less political" than Fox. These guys are a laff riot!
Given what we know about Maddow's background, should any of this come as a real surprise? Between the extremism of the (off the deep end) East Bay, Western Massachusetts, Oxford and Manhattan, she's spent her entire life hiding from conservatives and their viewpoints (occasional on-air jousts with populist Pat Buchanan really don't count).
And one suspects that if she could get away with it, she'd retreat to the Berkshires for good and make jam, or play with cats. So what is this really all about?
Top that off with an aversion to televised viewpoints from the competition and a picture emerges of a talking head without a clear idea of what the other side truly believes. Because she beats the fossilized Larry King in the 25-54 demo, however, the New York Times would have you believe she's the next candidate for sainthood.
By contrast, conservative talk radio's top stars have spent their entire lives studying (and most certainly living amongst) the left. The massive audiences they've generated recognize this quality; it has been key to their success.
Forget the doctorate (which in political science is a bloody waste of time), with this Achilles heel, why should Rachel Maddow be taken seriously?
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48 Comments:
"...she's spent her entire life hiding from conservatives and their viewpoints (occasional on-air jousts with populist Pat Buchanan don't count)..."
Oh? How do you figure, Brian?
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Anonymous, at 18 January, 2009 03:48
There's a reason why MSNBC keeps losing in the ratings. Maddow's one of them. Viewers are already tiring of her schtick and her poor ratings prove it.
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Carl, at 18 January, 2009 04:06
“why should Rachel Maddow be taken seriously?”
I didn’t think she was. That would be like someone taken Gore seriously about global warming. Who would be that stupid.
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pf1, at 18 January, 2009 08:25
The best radio talk shows, take little, or no phone calls at all.
The Pig Man, RL, doesn't take a lot of phone calls, at all, thus that is why his show is successful.
In truth, lots of phone calls make the show boring (i.e. Kim Komando, or The Insane Freak, SH).
Sadly, for Rachel Maddow, in lieu of phone calls, she does interviews, which also make a show boring.
E-mails also make a show boring, as well.
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Anonymous, at 18 January, 2009 10:04
This past week, I made it a point to spend some time listening to leftie talk. Here in Denver that would be 760.
It's amazing how the left characterizes Sean and Rush and Mark et.al. as these know nothing, bitter haters while absolute vile spewing people like Randi Rhodes get a pass. The whole time I spent listening to her, she ranted continually about President Bush. Never once a gracious comment. Never once, an ounce of credit or a heads up. And every conceivable snarky remark about his family, his administration-cripes
And the lies these lefties perpetuate is remarkable. Thom Hartman ranted for hours about what a great job FDR did to get us out of the Great Depression. How his socialist programs worked when we all know they didn't. 20%+ unemployment continued throughout the 30s. And when I called in to dispute his lies I was cut off by the screener.
When you hear the liberal mantra recited over and over, part of the left's marching orders, I now see, come from their left wing talk hosts-most of which are groundless lies.
MM
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Anonymous, at 18 January, 2009 10:20
Oh hash, please go peddle your dope somewhere else and let the adults have an intelligent conversation.
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Carl, at 18 January, 2009 14:42
Rachel Maddow; not really that smart. All leftist cant. Her 2001 Ph.D. thesis is entitled "HIV/Aids and Health Care Reform in British and American Prisons" -- isn't that really just a Ph.D. in P.C.? Bonus: Get what the conclusion is? letssayitalltogethor ... We need more AIDs education in prison.
Her supervisor was old P.C. hag Lucia Zedner of the all-crime-is-racist-unless-the-victim-is-white-school of ciminology.
So let's agree Rachel is clever but ... has chosen the easy conformist path to a useless Ph.D. You also know she's full of it 'cause she mentions her Doctorate / Rhodes scholarship (first openly lesbian) / oxford schtick every chance she gets. Does anyone really think being openly lesbian made it harderto get a Cecil R free-ride?
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Anonymous, at 18 January, 2009 15:06
Fox is for right wing people that don't want to think and MSNBC is for left wing people who don't want to think. The two networks deserve each other. Did anyone catch the Ben Affleck parody of Keith Olbermann? That was devastatingly funny - it caught his idiotic smarminess perfectly.
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Dave, at 18 January, 2009 15:39
The bit about Maddow not owning a TV set, let alone subscribing to cable or satellite, came out several months ago.
So her knowledge about Fox News, CNN, and the rest comes either from the limited time she spends at work or from indirect sources, such as liberal blogs.
We know that Bathtub Boy cannot make direct observations, based on the time he and Huffington "watched and listened to" Giuliani say that Obama will meet with Ahmadinejad and Assad, but since the AP had erroneously quoted him as saying "Ahmadinejad and bin Laden", they both ignored what was presented to the viewers and acted as if bin Laden were mentioned.
So apparently both Bathtub Boy and Maddow rely on blue bloggers for their knowledge, quite limiting, indeed!
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Chromium, at 18 January, 2009 17:01
If I had my druthers between Rachel Maddow, The Butch Lesbian's Wet Dream or Rachel Ray the uber-bubbly Oprah slave and terror supporter (by her wearing that Islam scarf in a Dunkin Donuts campaign)
I'd pick Rachel Hunter--sexy Aussie model, mom and someone who once told Clinton where to get off!
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The Real Bob Anthony, at 19 January, 2009 07:20
From today's New York Times-
Media & Advertising
Fox News Primes Itself for a Shift
By BRIAN STELTER
Published: January 18, 2009
(paragraph 7 of article)
"Fox easily leads the other cable networks in that demographic on a total day basis. But for
a couple of important hours, the gap has narrowed. On at least 10 days since the election,
Fox’s 9 p.m. program “Hannity & Colmes” has been surpassed in the competition for viewers
in that demographic by Rachel Maddow, the new MSNBC host."
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Anonymous, at 19 January, 2009 07:48
Joe Scarborough described as "left-leaning"? Perhaps from the vantage point of Mussolini.
Re: Fox "news": Why do you think it is that a majority of Fox "news" viewers still think that Saddam had some connection to 9/11 and that there were WMD's in Iraq? Outside of Dick Cheney's sociopathic fantasy-world, no one believes these things except the viewership of Fox "news." How, then can one maintain that Fox "news" is actually informing its viewers?
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wj, at 19 January, 2009 10:02
Wow. You are truly inane. Taking your points one by one:
1) "Rachel said she never watched a Fox show ever, but pitched a show to Fox." So what? Everyone knows about Fox, whether they watch it or not. Why does pitching a show to them mean she lied about never watching the network?
2) "Rachel may be losing her AAR show!" Oh, my! What a blow that would be. If she loses it, it's because she's host of a well-regarded new talk show on MSNBC that's doing better than previous shows on that network have done at 9 pm. That's...failure?
3) "Someone from Rachel's show asked a US Air Flight passenger to come on the show." OH NO! Her employees are...overzealous about booking guests? MON DIEU! She'll never last in this biz.
Moron.
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Anonymous, at 19 January, 2009 10:16
It's possible to be on Fox as a guest pundit without actually watching Fox, just come on for your spot and leave after, like most of the pundits do.
Brian thinks you are all retarded, like all conservatives do, show complete and total contempt for the small sliver of fringers who still take right wing pundits seriously
Pf1:That would be like someone taken Gore seriously about global warming.
Al Gore? Conservatives are stuck in 2001, PF1, it is not 2001, your ideology has been rejected by main stream America. Your party has been humiliated, defeated and rejected.
Pf1 still thinks conservatism is relevant and an Al Gore joke is relevant. AL Gore did not "invent" Global warming, scientists discovered it. Whether they are right or wring is the issue. Al Gore thinks they are right. So What?
and the 12%ers wonder why a "Muslim" "racist" "terrorist supporter" with little experience a "community organizer" (if you will) is now going to be president and has a 80% approval rating. Americans are not brainwashed by Obama, Americans hate the GOP, HATE conservatism and HATE the Republican party, the pundits, the radio shows, the blogs, America is SICK of YOU freaks of NATURE.
AMERICA IS SICK TO DEATH OF THE CONSERVATIVE IDEOLOGY, REPUBLICAN APOLOGISTS, BUSH APOLOGISTS, REAGAN WORSHIPERS.
There is no Obamamania, you are witnessing what happens when an an entire nation realizes an ideology is a FAILURE, this time it is conservatism
America sees what conservatism is, san ideology that caters to the rich and urinates on the commons. All the pundits in the world will not bring the American people back
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Anonymous, at 19 January, 2009 10:28
American traitor posted"
Thom Hartman ranted for hours about what a great job FDR did to get us out of the Great Depression. How his socialist programs worked when we all know they didn't
We all know???? You mean insane conservatives who listen to Rush and watch Fox. Those who know history, know the new deal worked.
These sick people live in a parallel universe where American history is erased to make their ideology seem legitimate. Deal with it, traitorous wing nut, the NEW DEAL worked, all historians know this, all people alive in his era know this, all Americans know this.
FDR liberalism worked, government for the people worked. Reaganomics and government for the corporation failed.
this is why you are the fringe., You traitorous Anti-American 12%er
"we all know".... WE all know conservatism DESTROYED AMERICA
Hartman, like any other historian, knows the New Deal worked. Only a sheep who listens to conservative talk radio, would re-write history in such a fashion
REAGAN=FAILURE
BUSH=FAILURE
F.D.R winner
this is why America hates conservatism.
those days of people taking you seriously are OVER. The New deal worked, the Reagan era, destoyed the working class. History is history, wing nut. Brit Hume, Limbaugh and Hannity, will not change history for the majority.
America is done with you waterheads.
DONE
live with it pig
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Anonymous, at 19 January, 2009 10:36
Chromium
Giuliani!!!!!!!
America rejected that filthy, fascist, Anti-American freak as well
you are irrelevant, and defending Rudy Giuliani for anything is akin to defending Bin Laden, you are a traitor, terrorist and Anti-American fascist. That is what you are, now kindly get the hell out of my country
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Anonymous, at 19 January, 2009 10:38
Carl said:h hash, please go peddle your dope somewhere else and let the adults have an intelligent conversation.
conservative and intelligent are two words that do not go together. Run to your master Hannity for how to respond, you worthless sheep
Adult and conservative do not go together, you guys are mentally 4. Now go save Terri Shiavo or something.
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Anonymous, at 19 January, 2009 12:47
you're ALL insane, americans really want real solutions, solutions rooted in traditional american rationality
you extremists, whether you be race baiters, war mongers, socialist parasitic "engineers", or dominionist freakjobs, are the only forces holding this nation back
when talk radio begins to reflect the ideas of americans who actually place america first, the media idiot storm will dissapate, and the industry will become all it can be, in whatever electronic form
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Anonymous, at 19 January, 2009 13:21
Joe Scarborough is conservative? News to me. As for Fox News, they spend so much time on, for and about lefties I've given it up long since. All news channels are now blocked in our house (especially PMSNBC). I turned Rush off today as soon as he started with Obama audio clips, and he's covering the immaculation tomorrow and I won't be listening to that. And I never miss Rush. All I have for now is Mark Levin.
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Peg C., at 19 January, 2009 13:50
presured speech, flight of ideas, paranoia/delusions...
welcome to the msnbc lineup of matthews, olbermann, and maddow.
They have the only green romm that provides a giant lithium salt lick for it's hosts.
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Anonymous, at 19 January, 2009 14:02
Wonder what Maddow and MSNBC are going to do now they can't blame everything on Bush.
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Brian, at 19 January, 2009 14:46
Brian , terrific snarkfest...
"if she could get away with it, she'd retreat to the Berkshires for good and make jam, or play with cats."
Claws out for the kitteh! I approve.
Aeris, morons should not comment as they tend to self-identify, much as you have. So some gentle advice: refrain. You're boring.
Rush takes hours of phone calls. Try actually listening to the best talent on radio, it won't hurt. Much.
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Anonymous, at 19 January, 2009 14:55
Anti-American terrorist said:
All I have for now is Mark Levin.
Levin is worse than open heart surgery, nothing worse than a small penis conservative, whining like a little bitch. Levin is about appealing as sleeping with a bag of hot, rotten garbage next to you. Levin is revolting, ugly, Anti-American, a pure piece of conservative excrement. and I'm sure anyone who actually listens to that traitor is just as disgusting
85% of the country is cautiously optimistic, this is killing conservatives, they hate, abhor and loathe America
conservatives will not be happy until we are all earning $7 an hour, all unions are destroyed and indentured servitude is back
sick, sick, people, really sick
the final step, deport all fringer Anti-American conservative swine.
enough is enough
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Anonymous, at 19 January, 2009 16:05
There is no Obamamania, you are witnessing what happens when an an entire nation realizes an ideology is a FAILURE, this time it is conservatism"
So you are really are so stupid you think and "entire nation" has embraced Marxism. I didn't know a person could get their head that far up their ass.
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Anonymous, at 19 January, 2009 16:38
"Wonder what Maddow and MSNBC are going to do now they can't blame everything on Bush..."
Simple! Blame everything on the Bush legacy, and Reagan!
It's not as though a precedent wasn't set....
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Anonymous, at 19 January, 2009 16:43
"At the meeting with television critics, Maddow followed up her Fox-free admission with some knee-slapping observations (see, she IS a comedian, just as the mainstream media claims, the humor is merely unintentional):
"The idea that there's any equivalency between us and Fox News..." she said. "Fox is a political experiment. Imagine them having somebody as liberal as Joe Scarborough is conservative doing their whole morning? It doesn't make sense.""
So Scarborough isn't even a conservative in your book? Ok, whatever, if Scarborough is a "Moderate," and Buchanan (Pat Buchanan!) a "populist," who exactly are the anchors on Fox News who aren't conservatives? Who are the Liberal anchors on Fox?
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Wilyvetmoves, at 19 January, 2009 17:02
"Joe Scarborough described as "left-leaning"? Perhaps from the vantage point of Mussolini."
Odd choice of comments, given that Mussolini was a leftist.
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Anonymous, at 19 January, 2009 17:34
It's so unfortunate that his parents gave him the name "Rachel." Maybe it was a family thing.
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BlogDog, at 19 January, 2009 17:57
Leave this hapless carpet muncher alone. She will self destruct
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Anonymous, at 19 January, 2009 18:12
"There is no Obamamania, you are witnessing what happens when an an entire nation realizes an ideology is a FAILURE, this time it is conservatism"
-------------
Entire nation?
Obama got 52.7% of the vote.
I know his cult doesn't look out of their cocoon to see that, but it's the reality.
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Anonymous, at 19 January, 2009 18:23
America sees what conservatism is, san ideology that caters to the rich and urinates on the commons. All the pundits in the world will not bring the American people back Somebody missed their afternoon nap I see.
Once the concept of EARNING accolades, food, and shelter,instead of the unintended consequence of DEMANDING entitlement of them by those lower on the history class grade curve, the cycle will start anew.
Thank goodness for Global Climate
Crisis(tm). All those folk touting
the fashionable cloth cut for "The Emporor's New Clothes" will have a chance to survive.
Coulter, "Guilty"(amongst others). Get back to us.
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Anonymous, at 19 January, 2009 18:25
wing nutter said:
Mussolini was a leftist.
according to whom? Rush
the right creates their own history
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Anonymous, at 19 January, 2009 18:39
Anonymous at 18:23 don’t bother him with the facts. 52.7 in liberal’s fuzzy math equals all Americans.
If Obama became President of Kenya he would be the first white president there could be another history making achievement.
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pf1, at 20 January, 2009 00:59
brian, still waiting for an explanation, as to how pat buchanan and joe scarborough don't meet your mandatory (KOO-KOO, KOO-KOO!) minimum requirements as bonafide "conservatives", LOL!
who else doesn't make the "cut"?
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Anonymous, at 20 January, 2009 01:46
That one guy who posted several times in a row is very annoying.
The new deal did not work by every standard possible. It was not a government for the people, it enslaved the people and made the depression worse and longer.
Conservatives are stupid? Read your posts. Thats stupidity.
America did not reject conservatism. They did not see conservatism in McCain and Bush barely qualifies as conservative if at all.
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Anonymous, at 20 January, 2009 01:56
GeronL
You are a trained seal, you are reciting fake history, completly contradicting reality
The New Deal helped millions upon millions of Americans, including veterans, thousands of WW2 families benefited from the new deal, the New Deal educated millions of Middle Class people, who formally NEVER went to college and NEVER had the opportunity. The NEW DEAL helped unions, BENEFITING MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF FAMILIES, who now had a FUTURE
You are a trained SEAL, the new deal helped Americans in a way, you can't imagine
This is empirically TRUE
You recite, Coulter, Levin, Limbaugh, and Hume who in term are reciting think tanks who work for big business.
The New Deal contrary to what your professor (high school drop out Rush Limbsugh told you) was a lot more than welfare. I suppose you hate ww2 veterans, I suppose you hate working class families, I suppose you hate normal Americans.. The NEW DEAL helped working class Americans. Before the New Deal, the poor, and working class were endentured servants with no possibility to secure a future. I guess you liked it that way.
Open up a history book, your conservstive masters, trained you to hate working America. You are vile, Anti-American scum.
I thank Jesus every day 80% of the nation ignores ignorant trash like you.
The New deal helped 90% of this nation, not an opinion a FACT.
REAGAN IS DEAD. His policies live on, but we are going to do something about that too
and Maloney: Pat Buchanan is a CONSERVATIVE. In your sick world anyone to the right of Mussilini is a "lib". Benito was indeed a right winger, fascism is a trait of the right. Morning Joe is a conservstive as well, the dirfference both of these conservatives are patriotic, where as most conservatives think patriotism is worshipping the rich.
These people are sick in the head. You are a bunch of trained seals, talk radio destroyed yoiur brain
I thank Jesus I can read anbd think for myself, conservsatives have lost their minds and their sanity
and McCain did not win because he was not conservative enough, he lost when theyu picked a psychotic Anti-American conservative as his VP
It's so funny, to hear conservatives still blame their losses for not being conservative enough. Rush told them this as well. DO you people think for yourselves as all?
America is center-left. America suppors FDR ideals, and always have and always will. Move to Dubai if you want social darwinism, or any 3rd world hellhole in Africa if you desire social darwinism, you sick, degenerate, freaks. Social Darwinism is fascism, and it is no shock conservatives support social darwinism
The NEW DEAL worked, veterans thanked FDR, the entire working class, thanked FDR. This is history, empricial facts.
Get it in your thick little skull, those who told you the New Deal did not work are WORKNIG FOR THE ULTRA RICH
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Anonymous, at 20 January, 2009 09:58
Astonished by the mental sickness that plagues "conservatives"
The New Deal, which enabled poor and working class to attend college ENSLAVED PEOPLE?
The New Deal which helped wounded veterans and deceased veterans families. ENSLAVED PEOPLE?
Before the New Deal, poor and working class people were enslaved by the filthy rich, and were stuck in an immobile caste system. The New Deal ushered in America's Golden age. This is not even up for debate.
Your pundits twisted your brain to the point where you really do live in an alternate universe.
National Labor Relations Act, did more for working class people than ANY legislation in America's history. It created the Middle Class by allowing unions and collective bargaining to flourish.
Unemployment dropped from 25% in 1933 to 1.2% in 1944. America at first resisted the New Deal, thanks to propaganda from the filthy rich, and within 10 years, America fully supported the New Deal. You are arguing what was argued when the New Deal first started, and those people were proven empirically wrong.
in other words anything that benefits the majority, conservatism is vehemently against. Conservatives are social Darwinists and favor indentured servitude
This is why you lost, not because McCain was not conservative enough, because conservatism was McCain's ideology. America GETS it. Conservatism has always been rejected by the majority. For a brief period conservatism was picking up steam with Reagan, but after 27 years we all see the results of legislation for the fewest. Conservatism is legislation for the minority, the rich, the privileged and the inheritedly wealthy. It's getting harder and harder to sell on the radio, America no longer buys it. Why would a working class person buy conservatism, when conservatism promotes social darwinism and an immobile caste system, where the majority are indentured servants to their employer? Conservatism spits on unions, despises collective bargaining, wishes to lower wages for the majority and favors laws that promote monopolies. Conservatism promotes class warfare.
Conservatism will NEVER be the dominant school of thought in America EVER again. Social conservatism will always be relevant(many Americans are Christians), however the economic social Darwinistic traits of conservatism will NEVER be accepted again. I hope you enjoyed what you pigs have done to America over 27 years.
Conservative freaks tried to mix religion with conservative ideologies, to win votes. WE all get it now, you used your piety in an attempt to sell us an ideology which does not benefit 95% of us
You lost the religious people too. Christians, need to take home a good pay check as well.
The Reagan revolution finally came home to roost, to the tune of the second Great Depression. The first depression was caused by conservatism, deregulation of the banks, and lack of labor laws.... the exact same thing is happening again. Your argument is weak, you are empirically wrong. Limbaugh will no longer be able to sell this failed ideology. WE NO LONGER BUY IT.
America wants FDR policies to be restored. America wants to forget the Gingrich, Reagan era as a bad dream.
Facts are facts. You fools really thought you could sell the ideology of the privileged forever, by using pigs on talk radio, and uy attacknig "libs" to distract from the perils of conservatism and what it has done to the working class
The house of cards has collapsed. We the people know what destroyed the economy, social darwinism, de-regulation, legislation for the minortity (the rich): CONSERVATISM
Conservatism is as dead as Stalinism, both failed ideologies
The quicker you accept it, the better off America will be. But than again conservatives never had the interest of America as a nation, conservatives define America as their own wallet
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Anonymous, at 20 January, 2009 10:58
PF1
Obama has an 85% approval rating, those who did not vote for him are now supporting him. your on the fringe.
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Anonymous, at 20 January, 2009 10:59
Brian
why did you refuse to post my empiricaly correct post on the New Deal?
You're house of cards has colappsed, every last conservative LIE has been exposed and is rejected by patriots from coast to coast.
No matter what you and your circle jerk 12%ers say: THe NEW DEAL WORKED. Shame on you for refusing to allow me to post the truth
no shock that you LOST and will be powrless for a century. WE THE PEOPLE REJECT THE ANTI-AMERICAN psychois of the right
those days of shrieking "lib" are the past. Limbauugh will not ever mean anything again.
Commons have risen
COMMONS HAVE RISEN
we know the radical right media is nothing but a mouthoiece for the rich, no longer do we the commons trust nor obey the radical right wing media
Obama best legislate for we the working class, or he do will be defeated
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Anonymous, at 20 January, 2009 12:54
Rusy:
EVERYBODY deserves to be quoted correctly. That includes Giuliani, bin Laden, Obama, and Limbaugh. EVERYBODY!
Olbermann cemented his lack of credibility by misquoting Giuliani immediately after showing the correct videotape.
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Chromium, at 20 January, 2009 13:20
Let me see if I got this straight…
You libs demand that we conservatives give Obama all the respect in the world while for 8 years and still going you libs refused to give George W. Bush any respect whatsoever.
Give us some good, solid, logical reasons, if you can, WHY we should give Obama the respect that you refused to ever give George W. Bush.
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Carl, at 20 January, 2009 23:01
MOP
Your unions are on the way out. Companies can not support them any longer. For an example. My company is going to be closing properties in Los Angles California if the union strikes when they receive no pay raises on the next contract. They will be replaced by temps in a new state. This is what your great unions have pushed companies to.
After they close the one in California then they will next work on closing one in the New York area. I want tell you who it is but its around four hundred union jobs.
This is working out well we closed a shop in Jacksonville Fla two years ago and our numbers are forty percent higher. Funny thing is they are making what the union shops are/were making without the union crap.
Unions destroy the working man it makes them lazy.
True story union rules say loader loads pallet. Fork lift driver moves the load. If a package falls off the driver must call and wait for a loader to pick it up. This takes up to twenty minutes. This is why unions are dying they are stupid and shoot themselves in the foot. Keep blaming corporations and republicans.
Liberal equals no common sense.
Oh yeah what percent support your communist party.
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pf1, at 21 January, 2009 01:55
Unions hate the working man all they want is the dues. Pay-up losers
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pf1, at 21 January, 2009 06:08
"Let me see if I got this straight…
You libs demand that we conservatives give Obama all the respect in the world while for 8 years and still going you libs refused to give George W. Bush any respect whatsoever.
Give us some good, solid, logical reasons, if you can, WHY we should give Obama the respect that you refused to ever give George W. Bush."
Carl, they can't. All they want is the New World Order...WELL THEY NOW HAVE IT IN A KENYAN BORN ILLEGAL ALIEN WHO HAS BLOCKED ALL ATTEMPTS TO REVEAL THE TRUTH AND A SUPREME COURT THAT GOES IN LOCKSTEP WITH THE FASCIST WORLD COURT AND INTERNATIONAL COURT OF JUSTICE!!!!!!!
And to "Jared" since you have such a man crush on Obama--WHY DON'T YOU GET TESTED FOR AIDS?! YOU SURE AS HELL HAVE NO MANHOOD LEFT AND OBAMA IS NO MAN!
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Anonymous, at 21 January, 2009 07:15
Anonymous
post your name like a man, you psychotic traitor. You seem to know who I'm. I did not even vote for Obama, however unlike your hero the cocaine fiend in a flight suit, Obama has a mandate, America NEVER accepted Bush as president, he never won , 2 elections, both tainted. When Bush was sworn in, people tossed eggs at him, and he had to speed the motorcade up the block, yesterday AMERICA CELEBRATED, for the first time in 8 years a president we actually VOTED for is president
PF1
if corporations paid workers fairly, there would be no need for a strike. You and your ilk (Anti-American pigs) look at us working people as numbers on a spread sheet as opposed to people.
I don't care about your personal profits, workers deserve to come first. Workers are a means to your ends. They deserve loyalty, yearly pay increases, and respect, not to be considered an "expense"
I will defend unions to the death. You pigs can live with one less yacht, one less European vacation, 1 less $10,000 a night hooker, 1 less BMW, 1 less summer home, attend 1 less celebrity GALA ball. These pigs live the life of luxury and cry when the little workers want a raise.
I have complete and total contempt for you. You are the epitome of Anti-Americanism. SCREW YOU, screw your B.M.W, screw your yacht, screw your $10,000 a night hooker. SCREW your vacations, McMansions, and material objects. You are nothing but an Anti-American traitor, only interested in stuffing the coffers of the rich..... All for you, none for the people who actually make you rich... the workers.
SCREW the RICH, you have bled the normal people long enough. IF you have a problem with protocol as you whine about, change it, simple as that. Instead of union busting, work with them, you'd be shocked as to what can be done with a little work together. All you see and all your ilk see is the horrors of sacrificing a little of your luxurious lifestyle. too bad.
You idiots kick around the workers, kick around the poor, blame them for everyting. In reality, it is the lifestyle and greed of the rich that have destroyed this nation
Screw Rush's cigars, as well. Your expensive, boasting lifestyle needs to be reigned in, WORKERS FIRST, get used to it.
the lower the wages get, the more likely , the piggies will get what they deserve...... keep it up, one day your ivory towers will fall. WE WILL REVOLT
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Anonymous, at 21 January, 2009 12:13
"You libs demand that we conservatives give Obama all the respect in the world while for 8 years and still going you libs refused to give George W. Bush any respect whatsoever..."
i certainly don't, in fact, i'd prefer everyone would man up and put their cards on the table, yet, you DO hold back, once you've said "a", you shrink back from saying "b"
"Give us some good, solid, logical reasons, if you can, WHY we should give Obama the respect that you refused to ever give George W. Bush..."
exactly! they CANNOT, because they are caught up in worship of a false god, a plastic pez dispenser, yet another emperor with no clothes, much less an empty suit
my question is, why are YOU not coming back with something stronger, of your OWN? the nation is waiting for you to bring something new to the table, that actually addresses TODAY's issues, without falling back on the past
if the right needs time to regroup and reframe the message, say that!
i'm saying, going around in circles does nothing to help americans, faced with a rising threat from inside...
we've heard what you say when you have the control and the microphone, we need to hear specifics from you, when your movement is on the ropes, we need to hear what you come up with, when your backs are to the wall?
don't you get it? think it out, express your OWN vision, give US something to work with!
with barky, dissent must be from day one, can you even be BOTHERED to formulate an effective response?
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Anonymous, at 21 January, 2009 12:43
MOP your socialist idea of Government owned corporations will not work. Stop complaining and get back to work loser so you can rent your five dollar crack whore.
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pf1, at 22 January, 2009 01:09
Rachel Maddow could quite possibly be the oddest choice to host her own show in the history of television! Her sexual preference, in my opinion is not at all important, but the thing that is important , unfortunatly is talent and the ability to be original! Keith Olberman is alive and well, and living, clearly where ever you are. Between Obama and Mssrrsrs. Maddow, life is much better for Republicans everywhere!
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Anonymous, at 17 July, 2009 23:57
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