The Radio Equalizer: Brian Maloney

02 August 2005

New York Sun Investigates Further

FINALLY, FRANKEN SPEAKS

What Took So Long? Is He Credible?







It's taken nearly a week, since the Radio Equalizer's first report on Air America's taxpayer funding diversion scandal, but Al Franken has finally addressed it, thanks to a second New York Sun investigative piece.

Why the delay? If we hadn't pushed this issue, would Franken have ever said a word? Maybe they really are worried at Air America's head office.

Can Franken's contention, that he first heard about the diverted funds a week ago, be taken at face value? How does this second, hard-hitting Sun story by David Lombino, affect Air America's position?

As Michelle Malkin and a whole host of bloggers are pounding home today, the network has further put its reputation in a perilous state, with this:

Mr. Franken said he did not know if money from Gloria Wise had been absorbed by the network and used to finance its operations. He said Piquant's payments to Gloria Wise were scheduled to begin this month but were prevented from going through while the city investigation continued.

A spokesman for the Department of Investigation, Keith Schwam, said that if Air America discovered the transfers before the city probe began, "They neglected to tell anyone at DOI or in the city about it."


So, did Franken carelessly reveal a network cover-up on the matter? They're telling the Department of Investigation one thing, while privately doing something very different.

In the near-constant liberal flak the Radio Equalizer and other conservative bloggers have recently faced, one constant is their contention it's all about a corrupt former manager, who left the network a year ago.

What's overshadowing Evan Cohen's 2004 behavior, however, is Air America's 2005 cover-up. We've had statements that conflict from day to day. Franken may have just accidentally forever blown Air America's remaining credibility to smithereens, not just with bloggers, but investigative authorities who are must be getting tired of these antics.


Why did Franken choose to speak now? Perhaps he realized this just wasn't going to blow over as quickly as hoped. Why sink with the ship, when Al has his own career to maintain?

One question for our Minnesota bloggers: how does this scandal affect his future US Senate chances? Is that Franken's real concern, rather than the relatively unsuccessful radio career?

Since I've been calling on Franken and Air America's other hosts to address this for days now, I don't want to fault him for that alone.

However, his comments don't seem well coordinated with the image the company has been trying to project, that of a rogue former network head, who conned well-meaning people.

I wonder if Franken's words will give the mainstream media the excuse they were looking to cover it, by taking him at face value, helping him project the sense that he really knew nothing about it.

Then, they can take a dismissive approach to our contention that the new owners have been just as evasive as Cohen.

Meanwhile, to whom should the network actually repay the money? Gloria Wise Boys and Girls Club, or taxpayers? Some of the best comments on the subject come today from Free Republic contributors, such as "NonValueAdded":

I'd be a little concerned about where this "repayment" is going. The money was stolen from the taxpayers of New York. The Gloria Wise outfit has lost their contracts and has a track record of mishandling money, it would seem. Why give them the money unless there is a mechanism in place for them to immediately pay back the grantors?

The money needs to go back to the city so it can either be returned to the general fund or be directed toward reputable agencies now tasked to carry out the original mission.

I say the city (and state and federal governments if they originated some of the grants in question) should put a lien on Err America's and Gloria Wise's assets until this is all sorted out.

(by NonValueAdded)


I wonder what kind of distraction this is becoming for Air America's on-air people and how soon the rest will follow Franken's lead and speak out to salvage their careers.

Jump, or sink, which would you choose? The S.S. Air America has hit an iceberg.


Franken/AAR graphic by
Darleen Click, City Kid$ graphic by George Adair, MSM Silence by Suzy Rice.

63 Comments:

  • You really are a shill for the worst aspects of politics as usual in this country.

    Last week you were demanding immediate repayment. Now that you've taken a second to let some air reach your brain you realze that perhaps AAR whipping out it's check book is not smartest solution in the world. You're a genius. Give yourself another pat on the back.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 02 August, 2005 14:06  

  • Oops, Ive changed my mind about it all...Air America is a bunch of dumb crooks who hoped to steal money from underprivaleged children by looking the other way once they discovered the embezzled money. Disregard all of my ealier comments about you being a right-wing shill and this being a non-story. I just see this as a liberal-good, conservative-bad issue because I allow emotions to rule my life rather than thought and reflection.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 02 August, 2005 14:12  

  • A spokesman for the Department of Investigation, Keith Schwam, said that if Air America discovered the transfers before the city probe began, "They neglected to tell anyone at DOI or in the city about it."

    So, did Franken carelessly reveal a network cover-up on the matter? They're telling the Department of Investigation one thing, while privately doing something very different.

    How do your statement follow logically from the DOI spokesman's comment. (BTW, I thought it was the DOI's policy not to comment on ongoing investigations?) The DOI guy said that AAR didn't tell the DOI that they had discovered aberrant financial activity. That means the DOI investigation began elsewhere. Probably with the Gloria Wise Club since they were the ones receiving government funds. Nowhere in the article that you quote does it say that AAR "told the DOI one thing while doing something else". No where. What it says is that AAR did not inform DOI that it was conducting its own internal audit. Who knows when both processes began? When did the investigation begin? When did the DOI first contact AAR about the issue? When did AAR start looking into the records of the transactions?

    You're a sloppy hack.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 02 August, 2005 14:18  

  • Sorry, I've changed my mind again. Air America had an obligation to report finanacial wrong-doing to the DOI as soon as they uncovered it so that any misappropriated money could be returned to the taxpayers. It would be wrong for any corporation to lay low, sitting on someone elses money, and hope that no one finds out. I apologize for all of my questions, I'm in way over my head and I'm also hoping to deflect attention from Air America's ever changing stories.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 02 August, 2005 14:25  

  • Criticize Franken for not saying anything then when he finally says something you accuse him of trying to save his ass while AAR sinks around him.

    Do you like to torture small animals?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 02 August, 2005 14:53  

  • Just tuned into AA; sounds like they're finally discussing the big scandal:

    Franken: "This Gloria Wise business has Karl Rove written all over it. Those lying liars are doing that thing where they lie again. When will they stop telling these lies? [unintelligible] Randi, what do you think?"

    Rhodes: "I don't know, but just wait till those poor kids hear what Bush has done to them! Bet they're lining up for the White House tour! BANG!!"

    By Blogger TallDave, at 02 August, 2005 14:53  

  • Oh, and keep up the great work! Just from the tenor of the lefty "anon" comments here it's obvious this is causing them some serious pain.

    Somewhere, Rush Limbaugh is laughing. This makes his little OxyContin misadventure look like a parking ticket.

    By Blogger TallDave, at 02 August, 2005 14:58  

  • Hey, Brian.

    You might want to think about restricting 'anonymous' posts, if that option is available to you under Blogger.

    From what I've seen, most 'anonymous' posts seem to be poorly thought out personal attacks, adding nothing significant to the discussion. The world already has enough of that crap. (see above)

    By Anonymous seybernetx, at 02 August, 2005 14:58  

  • Golly, I sure am sorry for all those insults like "shill", "sloppy hack", and remarks about torturing small animals. I was wrong and I apologize. It's not an excuse, but even as a child I could dish it out, but couldn't take it. Of course I realize that Al's comments make Air America's ealier statements look like transparent lies. By the way talldave, nothing Al Franken has ever said made me laugh as hard as your comment. Good one!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 02 August, 2005 15:02  

  • You might want to think about restricting 'anonymous' posts, if that option is available to you under Blogger.

    Oh yes and your identity as seybernetx gives us so much more insight into who you are and adds immense value to your comments.

    Yawn.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 02 August, 2005 15:14  

  • Okay, okay, you're right. I've used that "Oh yeah? Not me, you!" tactic ever since kindergarden and it's getting old to me also. I prefer to use "anonymous" because it allows me to say really shameful things to other people without the possibility of any consequenses. I am after all, a liberal, and avoidance of consequenses for our actions is what guides all of our political thought.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 02 August, 2005 15:22  

  • All righties are scum sucking morons.

    By Anonymous sebernetx, at 02 August, 2005 15:26  

  • See I can call myself whatever I want and it doesn't change my ability to spew insults.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 02 August, 2005 15:27  

  • All right, what I just did was really uncalled for. I pretended to be sebernetx and posted a comment. My only excuse is that I have no facts to argue the case for Air America now that Al has poked a hole in the cover story.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 02 August, 2005 15:30  

  • Wait, scratch that. I'm not sure what I believe anymore. I'm so confused.

    I think I love Brian Maloney.

    He's dreammmmy!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 02 August, 2005 15:32  

  • No. Changed my mind again.

    Brian sucks.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 02 August, 2005 15:32  

  • You're a screw up. You lefties are all the same. Come here and try and fuck up a good thing.

    Go back to the leftist hole you climbed out of.

    Jerk!

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 02 August, 2005 15:33  

  • Hey this is fun. You could piss away a whole day playing like this.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 02 August, 2005 15:34  

  • Wow. This is getting a little out of control. The Franken-freaks are on a rampage. Brian must really have struck a nerve. Keep it up buddy.

    By Anonymous Poundpuppy, at 02 August, 2005 15:41  

  • This wingnut plan to smear AAR is fast losing steam... Baloney fails again...

    ZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 02 August, 2005 15:48  

  • Call me when a real newspaper in New York picks this up. And I'm not talking about the Post.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 02 August, 2005 15:59  

  • Something doesn't jive here.

    First you say that Air America was involved in a cover-up because they didn't tell the DOI that they discovered on their own that there was a problem with money invested by Gloria Wise.

    But then the article states that Air America had all ready worked out a payment scheduled to repay the loans to Gloria Wise a month ago.

    It goes on to say that the DOI halted the scheduled repayments pending their investigation.

    So obviously, Air America worked out the repayment schedule before the DOI came on the scene.

    If the DOI was involved at the time the idea of making payments to Gloria Wise was hatched, the DOI would have never let it get as far as a concrete worked out payment schedule. Remember, as soon as they found out about it they squashed it.

    (My guess would be that the DOI is investigating Gloria Wise and they want to see if Air America should repay the City directly.)

    So it appears that Air America discovered the problem and moved to pay the money back all on their own before they knew the DOI was investigating this.

    So did they not only covered up the existence of the problem but also covered up the fact that they were quietly fixing the problem?

    I don't think you can have it both ways.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 02 August, 2005 16:01  

  • So it appears that Air America discovered the problem and moved to pay the money back all on their own before they knew the DOI was investigating this. So did they not only covered up the existence of the problem but also covered up the fact that they were quietly fixing the problem?

    Or perhaps they moved to start repaying the money before the DOI ever had any idea that anything was wrong with the club at all. If that's the case, and AAR had no reason to believe that anything illegal had happened then they had no reason to involve DOI. If they discovered a debt to Gloria Wise why would they have any reason to believe that a crime had been committed? If any crimes were committed it seems to have happened on Gloria Wise's end. Organizations make investments in each other all the time. AAR had no reason to know where the funds from Gloria Wise came from. I just don't see any overt indication that AAR knowingly tried to "cover up" anything. One thing we do not know is what instigated the involvement of DOI and when that occurred. How did they try to cover up the fact that they were trying to pay the money back? I don't understand what you're getting at there.

    Sorry for the anon posts. I'm not the one making malicious comments. I've tried to be civil and address the facts. I'll comment as "Mitchell" from now on.

    By Anonymous Mitchell, at 02 August, 2005 16:20  

  • You see, I don't believe it unless it is in the New York Times. That's the only paper to trust! I miss that Jayson Blair, too.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 02 August, 2005 16:20  

  • You really are a shill for the worst aspects of politics as usual in this country.

    Why not? It works so well for bringing you folks back to the site.

    Or do you have something better to do? Now that I think about it, probably not.

    By Blogger Scott, at 02 August, 2005 17:08  

  • Call me when a real newspaper in New York picks this up. And I'm not talking about the Post.

    Call me when the NY Times runs another story on something important like the Augusta Golf Club.

    Wait a minute, they probably just did. Just might draw another 6 protesters.

    By Blogger Scott, at 02 August, 2005 17:12  

  • Or do you have something better to do? Now that I think about it, probably not.

    Think about it. If I had nothing better to do than come here and read Brians site, and that was a bad thing (judging from the wording of your comment) what would that say about this site?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 02 August, 2005 17:16  

  • Call me when the NY Times runs another story on something important like the Augusta Golf Club.

    Wait a minute, they probably just did. Just might draw another 6 protesters.

    Got issues? We can talk. I'm a good listener.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 02 August, 2005 17:17  

  • All right, what I just did was really uncalled for. I pretended to be sebernetx and posted a comment

    Cheer up, whichever 'anonymous' you are.

    With the text available to you, and cut-and-paste operating, you still managed to misspell my name.

    Enough said. :)

    By Anonymous seybernetx, at 02 August, 2005 17:24  

  • Got issues? We can talk. I'm a good listener.

    Not at all. I just enjoy a good laugh which you seem so willing to provide. Keep it coming.

    By Blogger Scott, at 02 August, 2005 17:30  

  • I misspelled your name on purpose so the point would be obvious.

    I wasn't really trying to steal your identity.

    Kisses.

    By Anonymous sebernetx, at 02 August, 2005 17:32  

  • You know it seems like Elliot Spitzer is out there trying to bust every Business in New York, is there any play on him getting involved in this?

    My guess, no.

    I can get no interest on this topic on my blog on this either.

    By Blogger realdebate, at 02 August, 2005 18:09  

  • Mitchell - I'm the anonymous whose comment you responded to.

    Just wanted to say that what you said and what I said are pretty much in agreement.

    I think Air America was all ready in the process of paying the money back before the DOI got involved or before Air America knew the DOI was involved - because the DOI, when they found out about the repayment plan put a halt to it.

    The point being - that fact foils Brian's coverup angle.

    Rereading what I wrote, I think I could have been clearer, and I'm sorry for some grammatical errors. Oh well, it's the internet.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 02 August, 2005 18:14  

  • you people are nuts, repayment plan who the &^*@(!_*#@( cares? $875,000 (we know of so far) from a freakin non-profit. If you need cash you go to a bank, not the Boys & Girls Club.

    By Blogger realdebate, at 02 August, 2005 19:12  

  • Brian - My compliments on a brilliant piece of journalism. When they begin to squesl like pigs, you know you've got 'em.

    Anonymous Ones - what puzzles all of us is how Airhead America could have had almost a MILLION dollars in its treasury, without knowing whence it came. Return? Spend? Hide under Mattress? Are THESE the Philosopher-Kings who feel they could better run the nation?

    By Blogger Peter Porcupine, at 02 August, 2005 19:54  

  • Peter,

    Air America Radio is not trying to run the country.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 02 August, 2005 20:10  

  • Considering the AA supporters on this thread, the answer to most questions about why AA has acted as it has is obviously, "They're not overly bright, and not all their puppies are barking."

    JorgXMcKie

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 02 August, 2005 20:26  

  • AAR Must Have Lost a Station, their website says 66 now...

    http://www.airamericaradio.com/stations

    They're going to start dropping like domino's.

    By Blogger Lidsville, at 02 August, 2005 21:12  

  • The anonymous comments on here are hilarious to read, first anon comes unglued...second anon mocks first anon, ad naus.

    Meanwhile, Brian scored a hat trick while Al and Co. get hit in the back of the knee with a 65 mph Hockey puck.

    By Blogger Sailor Republica, at 02 August, 2005 21:30  

  • Do you mean as in "the network, formerly known as air america"?
    And no, they are NOT trying to run the country. That must have been a typo. RUIN the country is closer to the fact.

    By Anonymous Duane, at 02 August, 2005 21:37  

  • Peter Says - Anonymous Ones - what puzzles all of us is how Airhead America could have had almost a MILLION dollars in its treasury, without knowing whence it came.

    Peter - When the new owners took over there was no money at all in the treasury - remember all the stories about bounced checks and Frankin not getting payed.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 02 August, 2005 21:38  

  • South Lake Tahoe is gone from the list of affiliates. Not a powerhouse station but it could be the beginning of the end for AAR. I don't see how they can have any credibility arguing GOP corruption, when they have their fingers in the cookie jar. It's kind of ironic: ARR mocks O'Reilly and Limbaugh for sex and drugs, yet they are under investigation for diverting nearly a million dollars of money earmarked for underprivileged kids to their own coffers, what hypocrisy.

    By Blogger Lidsville, at 02 August, 2005 21:52  

  • People need to email this story to every AAR affiliate, let them know you won't support a station funded with money meant for the needy.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 02 August, 2005 21:57  

  • Anon @ 6:14,

    I wasn't really taking issue with your post although I was a bit confused by parts of it.

    Glad to see someone here at least is interested in the facts.

    By Anonymous Mitchell, at 02 August, 2005 21:58  

  • you people are nuts, repayment plan who the &^*@(!_*#@( cares? $875,000 (we know of so far) from a freakin non-profit. If you need cash you go to a bank, not the Boys & Girls Club.

    Really?

    You've never heard of companies soliciting investment from entities that are not banks? Non-profits and individuals make investments in companies all the time.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 02 August, 2005 22:02  

  • Please I want to know where to find Mr. Rush Limbaugh's official listener blog or message board so I can weigh in on the outrage.

    Please I want to know where to find Mr. Sean Hannity's official listener blog or message board so I can weigh in on the outrage.

    Please I want to know where to find Mr. Hugh Hewitt's official listener blog or message board so I can weigh in on the outrage.

    Please I want to know where to find Mr. AssMissile's official listener blog or message board for his Northern Alliance radio show so I can weigh in on the outrage.

    Please I want to know where to find Mr. Bill O'Reilly's official listener blog or message board so I can weigh in on the outrage.

    Oh, I forgot, these geniuses are too scared to host anything like an entirely open listener-friendly web site.

    Until this happens, you will get absolutely nowhere in denting Air America's numbers.

    "In news the rule is that liberals will watch the news, and conservatives will watch conservative news. A liberal will watch to see what you think, the conservative will watch to see how much you agree with him."

    The problem for you folks is that if they ever do open up the listener web spigot, they will get drowned and the right will tune out. Your future in the increasingly multiplexed channel of progressive thought is limited.

    By Blogger WHT, at 02 August, 2005 22:25  

  • Typical Republican excuses for scheming and media power-mongering:

    Evan Cohen - You know I have brain cancer.

    Rush Limbaugh - You know I have chronic back aches.

    Bill O'Reilly - You know I have these urges.

    G. Gordon Liddy - You know I have these violent urges

    Bill Bennett - You know I have these pesky virtues sitting on my shoulder, talking to me all the time. Stop, please stop, PLEASE.

    Lawton Smalls - GOD loves you ... Deal with it!

    By Blogger WHT, at 02 August, 2005 22:46  

  • WHT, wants to know where Hannity's comment area is? How stupid are you?
    Try:
    http://www.hannity.com/forum/
    The rest of your post is utter nonsense.

    By Blogger Ace, at 02 August, 2005 22:50  

  • Meanwhile, Brian scored a hat trick while Al and Co. get hit in the back of the knee with a 65 mph Hockey puck.

    What is that, about the speed of a slap-shot from a pee-wee?

    You're a veritable Don Rickles, without the delivery, humor, and good looks.

    By Blogger WHT, at 02 August, 2005 22:53  

  • OK, Hannity, grant you one out of five. So I tried registering; I was about ready to give up but finally got the ACK in the email after 5 minutes.

    Nice thread on AAR in the Hannity forum. Excerpt:
    Originally Posted by 7426k
    I remember the endless hue and cry here:

    Feb 2004: Air America won't last a month! They won't even get on the air!

    March: Air america won't last until April!

    April: Air America won't last until May!

    May: Air America is dead by June!

    June: Air America's on, like, only....15...no 20....no 45 stations!

    Do you see a pattern forming here?

    By Blogger WHT, at 02 August, 2005 23:10  

  • You've never heard of companies soliciting investment from entities that are not banks?
    Yes I have.

    Non-profits and individuals make investments in companies all the time.

    Agreed. As long as you agree that your point is irrelevant to this case, because the "investments" that Cohen made were with government grant money - and thus fraudulent anyway.

    By Blogger RD, at 02 August, 2005 23:51  

  • Meanwhile, Brian scored a hat trick while Al and Co. get hit in the back of the knee with a 65 mph Hockey puck.

    What is that, about the speed of a slap-shot from a pee-wee?

    You're a veritable Don Rickles, without the delivery, humor,


    Glad to be compared with Don Rickles. But you have to remember two big things about comedy: 95% of comedy is truth, and most comedy comes after the outrage.

    As for the slap-shot from a pee-wee comment, that's nice to say. But try actually being hit by a 65MPH hockey puck in the back of the knee. It brings you down quickly. I've actually had it happen. Hence the analogy.

    and good looks.

    For all you know, I look like a cat. I'm just a "harmless", loveable (yet ferocious) little Sailorball.

    Now shine my paws.

    By Blogger Sailor Republica, at 03 August, 2005 00:15  

  • Brian writes:

    So, did Franken carelessly reveal a network cover-up on the matter? They're telling the Department of Investigation one thing, while privately doing something very different.

    This makes no logical sense. Why would Air America know about an investigation of Gloria Wise before the investigation took place? It seems that the loan was scheduled for repayment prior to the investigation.

    Where's the cover-up? Nonprofits routinely invest their funds. Air America was scheduled to repay the loan beginning this month, but at the request of the city is holding off.

    What a nonstory.

    By Blogger Dick Tuck, at 03 August, 2005 00:24  

  • [Brian] So, did Franken carelessly reveal a network cover-up on the matter? They're telling the Department of Investigation one thing, while privately doing something very different.

    [Anonymous] How do [sic] your statement follow logically from the DOI spokesman's comment ...

    It follows from the Franken statement I quoted below and the the DOI comment. Sheesh! I hope you're just PLAYING dumb.

    Nowhere in the article that you quote does it say that AAR "told the DOI one thing while doing something else". No where.

    Thank you, Captain Obvious. It's clearly an inference, not a quote. Are you really THAT stupid?

    What it says is that AAR did not inform DOI that it was conducting its own internal audit.

    Was conducting? No, had conducted - assuming this isn't a fabrication. What it says is that AAR did not inform DOI that it already knew about the theft, when the DOI approached them sometime later. That's quite a difference. In fact, it's obstruction of justice.

    Your comment suggests they were benignly investigating "side-by-side" in two parallel campaigns, whereas the truth revealed by today's comments is much different: AAR "discovered" the theft at one point and realized Gloria Wise was missing close to a million dollars (or else they knew about it all along), but didn't contact the authorities.

    At that point they were obstructing justice. Why? Because a theft that shuts down a charity and causes other organizations to take up the slack imposes costs and burdens above and beyond the orignal money owed; and repaying the principal doesn't address anyone else's grievances. In addition there were criminal acts committed that the state has a right to investigate, and AAR was obligated to report this information to authorities. (Or else why is the DOI investigating this now? For sport?)

    So it's not enough for AA to draw up a "timetable" - in secrecy and in their own sweet time - to "begin repaying" GW after it's revealed that the theft contributed directly to the charity's collapse. And your suggestion that Air America was doing enough by attempting this on their own without involving law enforcement is irresponsible and dangerous. That the DOI spokesman said, "if Air America discovered the transfers before the city probe began, 'they neglected to tell anyone at DOI or in the city about it,'" and that Al Franken says the "internal probe" was conducted before the city agency became involved, makes it clear that you're wrong - and that AAR obstructed justice, whether through willful intent or sheer stupidity.

    By Blogger RD, at 03 August, 2005 05:42  

  • [Anonymous]
    . Something doesn't jive here. No "jive" here except you, my anonymous brother.
    . First you say that Air America was involved in a cover-up because they didn't tell the DOI that they discovered on their own that there was a problem with money invested by Gloria Wise. Yes.
    . But then the article states that Air America had already worked out a payment schedule to repay the loans to Gloria Wise a month ago. AAR CLAIMS in their statement "We agreed months ago" for payment to start soon. IF true, then this "remedy" obstructed justice. Have seen no proof of a schedule.
    . It goes on to say that the DOI halted the scheduled repayments pending their investigation. Yes - the "scheduled repayments" angle was nipped in the bud by the DOI.
    . So obviously, Air America worked out the repayment schedule before the DOI came on the scene. Obviously, they're CLAIMING they worked out a "schedule"...yes. They never discussed diddly about the other victims, though; nor has GW vouched for the fact they were involved at this time.
    . If the DOI was involved at the time the idea of making payments to Gloria Wise was hatched, the DOI would have never let it get as far as a concrete worked out payment schedule. Remember, as soon as they found out about it they squashed it. I think your logic here is sound. I'm sure the moment DOI got involved they put the kaybash on any bogus attempts by AAR at "dial-your-own justice".
    . (My guess would be that the DOI is investigating Gloria Wise ... Yes.
    ...and they want to see if Air America should repay the City directly.) Don't know about THAT...I was going to say, "...and it led them right to Air America's doorstep."
    . So it appears that Air America discovered the problem and moved to pay the money back all on their own before they knew the DOI was investigating this. That "apparent" conclusion depends on three unproven assertions: that AA didn't know about the theft from the get-go, that their claim about the "schedule" isn't bogus, and that they were too thick to realize their "solution" of paying GW on the sly wasn't sufficient to redress the problem. But yes, it is meant to appear that way, you're right.
    . So did they not only covered up the existence of the problem but also covered up the fact that they were quietly fixing the problem? Now you can see why their claim of "quietly fixing the problem" is so absurd - it leads to a contradiction.

    Besides, "Quietly fixing" is an oxymoron. The only way to "fix" this particular problem is to contact the authorities (not the other way around), identify the aggrieved parties, and work to clean up the mess. Obviously given the kind of mess this is, it can't be done in secrecy.

    I don't think you can have it both ways. Indeed.

    By Blogger RD, at 03 August, 2005 05:54  

  • [Mitchell]
    . Or perhaps they moved to start repaying the money before the DOI ever had any idea that anything was wrong with the club at all. [Dial-your-own justice, in other words.] If that's the case, and AAR had no reason to believe that anything illegal had happened then they had no reason to involve DOI. Nice try. If they moved to start repaying money directly to GW without involving the authorities, they are guilty of obstruction. Because their "forensic" investigation revealed the nature of the theft, they had no reason to DISbelieve that something illegal had been the cause - and thus they were obligated to identify the other parties involved.
    . If they discovered a debt to Gloria Wise why would they have any reason to believe that a crime had been committed? Because - if they didn't know there was a debt, and didn't think there should be a debt, then there was no reason to expect a debt on the books. Yet they found one. So why was it there? Such contradictions constitute ample reason to believe criminal activity is involved. And under Sarbanes-Oxley, officers of the company can be held liable for such activity even if they didn't commit the crime.
    . If any crimes were committed it seems to have happened on Gloria Wise's end. "If", "seems" and "end" are weasel words. Are you seriously trying to imply that this crime had only one "end"? Or that it just "seems" that way, but it actually has two (or more) "ends"?
    . Organizations make investments in each other all the time. With government grant money earmarked for non-investment purposes?

    Since you obviously have no clue, you may not be aware that such investments must be tracked. Monies that are ineligible for investment purposes (like gov't grant money) may not be co-mingled with investment funds. The beneficiaries of the bogus "investments" perpetrated here have NO plausible deniability, your fantasies to the contrary. You're ignoring the fact that such "loans" were never credible to begin with; loans are not primary investment vehicles for organizations which do not loan money, and as we know, the Boys' and Girls' Club isn't in the business of loaning money. Such distinctions are NOT abstract in the corporate world.

    . AAR had no reason to know where the funds from Gloria Wise came from. Generally Accepted Accounting Principles (GAAP) say otherwise.
    . I just don't see any overt indication that AAR knowingly tried to "cover up" anything. "Seeing overt indication of knowingly covering up"? If you're determined to go about it that way, then thank God we're not relying on your "vision", wouldn't you agree?
    . One thing we do not know is what instigated the involvement of DOI and when that occurred. How did they try to cover up the fact that they were trying to pay the money back? I don't understand what you're getting at there. Same contradiction, different post.
    . Sorry for the anon posts. I'm not the one making malicious comments. Comments don't have to be malicious to be malevolent.
    . I've tried to be civil and address the facts. Sometimes civility alone doesn't cut it.

    . I'll comment as "Mitchell" from now on.

    Good. Mitchell, it's not necessarily clear whether AAR was out to steal kids' lunch money, nor does it mean we are saying Al Franken & crew are bad people. But some of the people on this blog know what they're talking about as well, and your counter-queries to the group are misleading and irresponsible. Using language the way you do creates obfuscation, and it's not right. Only you can speak to whether it's just the way you think or whether it's intentionally devious.

    By Blogger RD, at 03 August, 2005 06:06  

  • [Anonymous] I think Air America was all ready in the process of paying the money back before the DOI got involved

    To whom? How much? For what portion of the redress? "In the process of" is a meaningless term, and "I think" doesn't inspire confidence. They haven't paid any money back YET - as we have now been told - so what does their statement really signify? (What - that they were "just about to" pay up but got stopped in the nick of time?)

    The claim that Air America had a payment plan is NOT a "fact" at this point, it's a claim.

    or before Air America knew the DOI was involved - because the DOI, when they found out about the repayment plan put a halt to it.

    You better believe they did. Dial-your-own justice is not the prerogative of Air America - or anyone else for that matter. By this time there were other interests involved besides GW.

    The point being - that fact foils Brian's coverup angle.
    Poppycock. That claim doesn't foil anything except their own credibility.

    By Blogger RD, at 03 August, 2005 06:07  

  • If AAR was already planning to make payments to Gloria Wise, why wasn't Gloria Wise aware of this? They haven't mentioined anything about a plan in place until the investigators got in the way.

    My kids often tell me that they were "gonna do" what I had told them earlier, but then I punished them and then they never got the chance. That explanation never flies with me.

    By Anonymous Shaun, at 03 August, 2005 10:54  

  • [Shaun] If AAR was already planning to make payments to Gloria Wise, why wasn't Gloria Wise aware of this?

    Exactly! (Question to all: Has GW specifically denied any knowledge of this yet, or are we just inferring it at this point?)

    GW had better hope they didn't know anything because if they did - and failed to involve the authorities right away - they're just as guilty of obstruction as AA.

    They haven't mentioined anything about a plan in place until the investigators got in the way.

    Yes - at least not to the news media! ;) Personally I think this "plan" was a suggestion by AA to the DOI when AA was first contacted, figuring it might feed the tiger. When the DOI shot it down as irrelevant to the fraud & obstruction issues, I think this became "we had a schedule but the DOI blocked it".

    At least they'd better hope this what happened. Because if they really did try to work a secret "repayment" deal with GW, they're even MORE guilty.

    On that subject: What if AA tried to bribe GW behind closed doors with a partial repayment of the money (some cash, some "in-kind repayment" including advertising) on the premise that, since GW's operating expenses had "plummeted", they might be able to keep more of the returned cash for other new, fun projects?

    Pure conjecture. Such a fantasy wouldn't stand up to the slightest scrutiny of the books. Anyhow, at this point, Mitchell & co had better hope AA didn't try to "work out a schedule..."

    By Blogger RD, at 03 August, 2005 14:08  

  • Well it seems to be a rather complex legal situation. I'll be interested to see how all falls out.

    By Anonymous Mitchell, at 03 August, 2005 14:09  

  • Pure conjecture. Such a fantasy wouldn't stand up to the slightest scrutiny of the books. Anyhow, at this point, Mitchell & co had better hope AA didn't try to "work out a schedule..."

    I could care less if the whole lot of them get thrown in jail. I'm sorry that looking for an honest debate here seems to get boiled down to us against them. That's why everything name calling. I have no interest in defending anyone that's committed a crime.

    Let the chips fall where they may.

    By Anonymous Mitchell, at 03 August, 2005 14:15  

  • MICHELLE MALKIN CREDIBILITY GAP EXPOSED

    Honestly you are referencing Michelle Malkin ...the woman wants Internment Camps !!! I know people call you Republicans Nazi's but this is too much you guys have to forget about the idea of camps for awhile

    Michelle isn't a credible source for the truth anyways she works with Geraldo Rivera at Foxnews the only Asian American woman who thinks that the World War 2 Internment camps were a good idea....Going against Modern beliefs of the entire situation.

    By Blogger BRUISER, at 04 August, 2005 01:56  

  • When Is that pussy Sean Hannity going to Iraq?

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 04 August, 2005 01:57  

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