The Radio Equalizer: Brian Maloney

18 November 2005

Questions About MSNBC Host Olbermann

ANTI-O'REILLY CAMPAIGN?

Alioto Says She Was Bumped For Not Playing Along




Does MSNBC host Keith Olbermann expect guests to observe a strict anti-O'Reilly line?

After new allegations by former San Francisco Supervisor and Democratic Party activist Angela Alioto, some are wondering if that's the case. Alioto claims she was bumped from a guest slot on Olbermann's "Countdown" program Tuesday evening, after refusing to call for O'Reilly's outright FOX News Channel termination.

That comes after O'Reilly's controversial comments about San Francisco's election-day hostility to military recruiters, previously covered here:



O’REILLY: You know, if I’m the president of the United States, I walk right into Union Square, I set up my little presidential podium, and I say, “Listen, citizens of San Francisco, if you vote against military recruiting, you’re not going to get another nickel in federal funds. Fine. You want to be your own country? Go right ahead.” And if Al Qaeda comes in here and blows you up, we’re not going to do anything about it. We’re going to say, look, every other place in America is off limits to you, except San Francisco. You want to blow up the Coit Tower? Go ahead.


And, according to a NewsMax report, Alioto was instead replaced by ultraleftist firebrand Chris Daly:


But it looks like Olbermann's staff got what they wanted after all, replacing Alioto with Chris Daly, a member of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors,

"You know, this is dangerous," Daly told Olbermann on the air. "Fox News and Westwood One need to take some accountability for this and terminate Bill O'Reilly's employment."


Upon her arrival in Washington, DC last night, the Radio Equalizer reached Alioto via email:

"Brian, I think Bill's words were unfortunate to say the least, but as a staunch supporter of the First Amendment, I believe that it goes both ways and not just when the left wants it to," Alioto remarked.

"I do not believe for one minute that Bill wants anyone dead. I believe that he is a passionate conservative and to me that is important as a passionate liberal.

"See, I am a moderate, so the bottom line is that San Francisco is a great city and any comment wishing her harm will always be vigoriously contested, especially from me.

"But calling for Bill's termination is intolerant of his ability to speak and I do not support it. So Amy at Keith Olbermann's show called and cancelled my planned appearencee because I also told her that if she wants someone to slam Bill, period, then that's not me," Alioto concluded.

While we were on the subject, I asked Alioto about the extreme nature of contemporary San Francisco politics. Isn't it odd to be called a "moderate"?

Her response: "the comment in the paper was that I am a moderate in San Francisco, meaning a liberal anywhere else."

The Radio Equalizer also contacted MSNBC producer Amy Sutre today for her account of the incident. Sutre didn't comment, other than to say she was aware of Alioto's allegations, and indicated she would call back later with a statement.

Any subsequent information from Sutre will be added here in an update.

While one could expect cable news channel competitors to spar, there are signs of increasing conflict between Olbermann and O'Reilly, even if it primarily originates with the former.

There's no question about one thing, however: ratings for O'Reilly are several times higher than Olbermann's.

On Wednesday, for example, "The O'Reilly Factor" had 2.8 million viewers in its 8pm airing, compared to 517,000 for "Countdown", according to TVNewser.


UPDATE-- Thursday evening cable ratings are in, here's how O'Reilly and Olbermann compare:

At 8:00pm EST Thursday:

O'Reilly Factor: 2.5 rating, or 2,221,000 homes
Olbermann: .4 rating, or 330,000 homes

The 4am EST "O'Reilly Factor" showing (which is the second rerun) beat Olbermann's first 8:00pm EST airing.

UPDATE: No subsequent call from Olbermann's producer.


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30 Comments:

  • Keith Olbermann is a lightweight when compared to Big Bill.
    If he wants to pick a fight with Bill he is only doing so to generate much needed publicity for his own show.
    quite frankly, I don't know why MSNBC continues with Mr. Olbermann since it is obvious by his ratings he brings absolutely nothing to the table.

    By Blogger Jeff, at 18 November, 2005 13:03  

  • uber lefty Olbermann is poorly armed to enter an intellectual battle of wits against any of the conservative prognosticators, pundits, and bloviators ... yes, that's Bill's job.

    When it treats the military, gun owners and families of officers killed in the line of duty the way that it does, SF has no position to act indiginantly when it is called to task for its "moral" positions on international policy.

    Maybe, SF needs to do the rest of hte country a favor and just sucede from the union...

    Oh, by the way, to the fine citizens of SF...thank you for allowing Stockton to get the battleship USS Iowa. Stockton will show it the respect that it so richly deserves...

    By Blogger Nocoen, at 18 November, 2005 13:23  

  • That being said Olbermann is the highest rated on their network, way ahead of matthews and scarborough (hoo-rah, i guess) and in the 18-34 demographic he, according to nielsen, kinda beats o'reilly pretty handsomely.

    By Blogger Adam H. Berkowitz, at 18 November, 2005 13:47  

  • Brian - what point are you making here? That a show on MSNBC made an editorial decision on who to book?

    Are you saying that's somehow wrong? If so - where are your excerpts from Franken's books? Where are your guest bloggers from Alternet and Huffington Post?

    Also - might it be that O'Reilly's comments were so offensive that both liberals and conservatives might find fault?

    Again - where is the "News" - and isn't this site supposed to be about radio?

    No shortage of radio news today... you can read about it (including Air America's most recent lawsuit settlement) at http://radioneutralizer.blogspot.com

    By Blogger Lyin' Baloney, at 18 November, 2005 14:14  

  • Is Olberman still on the air?

    And did a commenter above really boast about him by noting that his ratings are the best for *MSNBC*? Even better than - gasp! - Chrissy Matthews?

    That's an impressive feat. Wayne Campbell's cable access show would get better ratings than most of the stuff on MSNBC.

    That said ... I'll give it to Olberman: sure he's a barking moonbat, but he's entertaining. Sure his bias is ridiculous and his show is a propaganda tool for the anti-America crowd ... but its good television.

    A smart liberal would get him on Air America ... or has that already happened? Like everyone else on Earth, I've never actually heard Air America, so how would I know.

    In short: a liberal bias? Huh? No *way*!

    /sarc of

    By Blogger Icarus, at 18 November, 2005 14:27  

  • Olbermann is a raving lunatic, is he still claiming the Ohio election was "stolen" last year? Cripes, the way he went on and on about that...

    He just nuts, that's all. Anything the guys says are just random anti-Bush ramblings. They don't need to have any basis is fact, reality, or common sense.

    By Blogger Tom C, at 18 November, 2005 14:53  

  • lyin' baloney-

    It's sad that you cannot make the point of it without having someone spell it out for you. It is just typical SOP for liberal commentators, they either don't care about what their opposition really thinks, or they'll allow one to oppose four or five libs.

    Here, we have the case of a liberal who apparently wasn't liberal enough to suit Mr. Olbermann's intents, only because she thought that Mr. O'Reilly had a constitutional right to speak his mind. And, since Olbermann's focus is to silence his opposition (as is so often the case), there was no interest in hearing any view other than Bill O'Reilly should be sacked.

    And the point of it? What else than to show the hypocrasy of the "tolerant, broad-minded, enlightened" Olbermann's demanding that O'Reilly be censored.

    By Blogger yohannbiimu, at 18 November, 2005 15:11  

  • OK - so, as I stated, Olbermann made an editorial decision and chose not to air someone who disagreed with him.

    This is different how from how Limbaugh chooses his guests, callers, and otherwise controls every aspect of his show?

    Tell me how this is different from Maloney neglecting to post facts and opinions that disagree with his own?

    And, most importantly... how is this phenomenon "News?"

    If you're curious to know how the Republicans bungled FCC appointments or, indeed, anything new about radio today, I encourage you to visit a blog that actually posts news about radio:

    http://radioneutralizer.blogspot.com

    By Blogger Lyin' Baloney, at 18 November, 2005 15:26  

  • Lyin' - your site is hilarious.

    According to you, the Blacks and the Spanish are being sued by their shareholders for fraud, the Christians are being sued by plumbers? The White Texas Conservatives are being sued for throwing their weight around, and the liberals are being sued for not paying their bills.

    I followed one of the links and found this:

    http://www.radioink.com/HeadlineEntry.asp?hid=131400&pt=todaysnews

    It says the chairman of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting was busted sucking up to Rove and blatantly pushing conservative programming on PBS.

    By Blogger Choda Boy, at 18 November, 2005 16:53  

  • lyin' baloney-

    First of all, it is patently obvious that you do not listen to Rush Limbaugh, otherwise you'd know that a relatively high percentage of the callers to his program are liberals, and that he discusses issues, rather than just rant and listen to folks who otherwise agree with him. Olbermann's "editorial decision" was apparently to state his case, and then bring on guests who would basically reiterate everything he had already said. No wonder his ratings are lousy.

    As to posting opinions that disagree with him, Maloney is allowing your free expression of opinion. He isn't deleting your posts, which has happened to me when I've posted on Huffington's Post.

    As to the "news" of it, I'll throw it back at you--what is the "news"
    of saying that you have a case against another social commentator, but you only allow one side of the argument? What sort of case does Olbermann have if he's uneasy about allowing an opposing view to it? What sort of spineless weenie calls for someone's livelihood to be terminated, but censors any objective thoughts that hasn't occurred to him?

    As is the case of all libs, they either leave objectivity out of the matter entirely, or they smother it with their brainless banter. Olbermann could have done what Chrissy Matthews does, and put up an ambush for the opposing view, but he was too much of a wussy to even do that.

    By Blogger yohannbiimu, at 18 November, 2005 17:40  

  • Seriously...I didn't know Olberman was still on the air. The last time I checked, he had about 13 people watching his show.

    Is it just me, or does Olberman look like a Nazi to anyone else?

    By Blogger Crapdog, at 18 November, 2005 22:21  

  • Sheesh ... is there no policy in here against someone making deliberate non-points and then hyping his own Web site?

    Kind of pathetic, especially when they use a domain name similar to that of the place where they're desperately seeking free publicity. It's as sad as calling your radio show "The O'Franken Factor" ... can you say "wanna-be"?

    Make Lyin' buy an ad if he wants to plug his lib Web site, Brian.

    By Blogger The4thEstate, at 19 November, 2005 00:14  

  • Brian:

    You bio says that you are a "2005 Payne Award For Ethics in Journalism nominee."

    I just checked the Payne website, and it looks like absoluately anyone can be nominated. All one needs to do is fill out a form (http://payneawards.uoregon.edu/nomination.pdf).
    Why would you put this on your bio? It's not an accomplishment. For all we know, you nominated yourself. The 2005 winners, by the way, can be found here:
    http://payneawards.uoregon.edu/news2005.php

    By Blogger Justin, at 19 November, 2005 08:57  

  • I notice Brian has stopped his Amazon comparing of Franken's and Coulter's book. I wonder why?

    By Blogger Dick Tuck, at 19 November, 2005 18:14  

  • Seriously...I didn't know Olberman was still on the air. The last time I checked, he had about 13 people watching his show.

    Is it just me, or does Olberman look like a Nazi to anyone else?


    He kind of looks like a character from Ferris Buehler. Pointing out how stupid the supposed grownups are acting.

    By Blogger WHT, at 19 November, 2005 18:36  

  • Brian;

    As usual, excellent and incisive commentary on the O'Reilly thing. Just Wat **IS** it with Olberman anyway -- he has feuds with Geraldo Rivera, he hasw feuds with O'Reilly -- he's too much of a wuss to pick a fight with Sean Hannity though -- Hannity would kick his butt up and down the block all day long. Keep up the excellent work on the Air America farce too -- run the weasels to ground until they squeal.

    Keep doing what you're doing -- it's one of the best semi-daily commentaries on the web, period. I've added you to my Daily News links on my blog to spread the word.

    Besides, you know you're getting to them when cyber-weenies like Lyin' Baloney are razzing you. Go Get 'em, Big Daddy!

    By Blogger John D. Long, at 19 November, 2005 21:07  

  • Lyin sounds like an arrogant smartass to me but I'll give him that he hasn't posted anything that seems liberal and from his site he does seem to know about radio.

    But seriously - shut the fuck up.

    By Blogger Allie Smiley, at 19 November, 2005 21:13  

  • Justin, didn't you try that one before?

    You have no evidence to back your claim. Interesting some of the liberal commenters hold me to a far higher standard than they expect of themselves.

    By Blogger Brian Maloney, at 20 November, 2005 00:42  

  • Brian:

    You huge piece of dung. Based on all of it's proven fabrications, you and no else has the obligation to back up the claims in your bio:

    justin says:
    Your bio says that you are a "2005 Payne Award For Ethics in Journalism nominee."

    I just checked the Payne website, and it looks like absoluately anyone can be nominated. All one needs to do is fill out a form (http://payneawards.uoregon.edu/nomination.pdf).
    Why would you put this on your bio? It's not an accomplishment. For all we know, you nominated yourself. The 2005 winners, by the way, can be found here:
    http://payneawards.uoregon.edu/news2005.php


    re: YOUR BIO

    You brag about being mocked in TIME Magazine by writing this in your bio:

    Brian Maloney was compared to Rush Limbaugh in Time Magazine.

    You write:
    A talk host since 1993,

    Yet:
    You have no job as a talk show host. Talking to your computer does not count. You need to have an audience of even one to claim you are hosting a show,


    You exclaim:
    Initiated blogospheric Air America scandal coverage.

    ASIDE:
    from the pathetic nature of boasting about being the first person to read a story in the New York Sun and linking it to your blog (not a huge feat for someone who has no job, lives off his parents at age 37 and has nothing but time to obsess about those who started radio a year and a half ago and have succeeded beyond his saddest and wildest dreams)

    THERE:
    is no scandal. Turns out you were wrong... about everything... Liz "I pull this everywhere I work", the now settled multi cultural suit and the paid back loan from a guy who embezzled from a charity.

    You are America's greatest loser. The only reason why I don't feel embarrassed to pay this much attention to such an irrelevant loser is because you are a superlative. You are America's loserest! The number one loser!

    add that to your bio and I promise no one will question it.

    By Blogger samseder, at 20 November, 2005 03:21  

  • Gosh darn it...I still have no idea who Sam Seder is.

    By Blogger Crapdog, at 20 November, 2005 06:01  

  • The last time I watched Olberdork's show was when he very gay-ly told his sweetie Chrissy Matthews that he was never prouder of him after Pissy Chrissy, realizing he could never match wits with her, hurled insult after insult at Michelle (sigh..I love her) Malkin.

    I still think he looks like a Nazi.

    By Blogger Crapdog, at 20 November, 2005 06:06  

  • samseder wrote: "The only reason why I don't feel embarrassed to pay this much attention to such an irrelevant loser is because you are a superlative. You are America's loserest! The number one loser!"

    -- Sam, Sam, Sam ... easy now. Deep, healing breaths.

    Here's a little splash of cold water: If Brian were REALLY irrelevant, you wouldn't expend so much time, effort and emotional energy trying to take him down a peg or two, would you?

    Ask yourself this question: Does Brian keep coming back to YOUR Web site, or do you keep coming back to his?

    See how obvious some things become when you just stop and think about them? The reality is, Brian will never be truly irrelevant until nobody cares about his blog anymore -- and when people like you stop visiting here repeatedly and trying so desperately to splatter mud on him.

    Until then, I'm sure we'll see you again ... and again ... and again ...

    By Blogger The4thEstate, at 20 November, 2005 08:48  

  • Justin, didn't you try that one before? You have no evidence to back your claim. Interesting some of the liberal commenters hold me to a far higher standard than they expect of themselves.
    No Brian, I didn't (search your archives if you don't believe me). As for evidence, I provided a link to the nomination form.
    I'm not holding you to a higher standard than anyone else. I'm just saying it's silly to include the nomination in your bio, since anyone can be nominated by simply filling out a form and mailing it in. It's not like you were a finalist or a winner.
    File this under "resume padding"

    By Blogger Justin, at 20 November, 2005 08:48  

  • Mr. 4th Estate:

    If SamSeder is who he claims - it appears he's reacting to Brian's near obsessive behavior slamming his employer.

    That's different that harrassing for no reason, I think you'll agree.

    By Blogger Lyin' Baloney, at 20 November, 2005 12:21  

  • I remember enjoying Keith Olbermann's cute limmericks and phrases on ESPN. Taking his word about politics and "real world" affairs as professional, experienced, and knowledgeable? Yeah right!

    By the way, the husband and I are using Firefox. He's been using it and touting it for a while. I just moved over last week. Thanks for the plug.
    -OC

    By Blogger Olah Chadasha, at 20 November, 2005 15:18  

  • Justin, you're starting to sound obsessed with my award nomination.

    There aren't any "finalists", there are nomination entries and winners.

    I was nominated. Period.

    I've addressed this in full in a more recent post.

    By Blogger Brian Maloney, at 20 November, 2005 21:51  

  • I have a very "liberal" comments policy here, which has some other bloggers wondering why.

    All of the signs pointed to this "samseder" being a fake, now there's evidence it might really be Air America's Sam Seder making these comments.

    Seder (since many don't seem to be familiar with him) is Janeane Garofalo's cohost.

    I don't know what would possess Seder to make these comments, but they are mighty entertaining.

    By Blogger Brian Maloney, at 20 November, 2005 21:57  

  • "If SamSeder is who he claims - it appears he's reacting to Brian's near obsessive behavior slamming his employer. That's different that harrassing for no reason, I think you'll agree."

    -- Well, yes and no. Whether or not samseder is who he claims (and as Brian noted, Sam Seder isn't exactly a household name in most households), there's reacting and there's ... REACTING.

    I'd like to believe that anyone who's gotten at least as far in his career as the real Sam Seder (although he's still several light-years away from Limbaugh and Hannity) would come in here with better stuff than "You are America's loserest! The number one loser!"

    I mean, I used to find such things clever too, but then I graduated from the eighth grade.

    My point is, I have no problem with someone taking issue with what he reads in here and debating the point. I just expect people who have semi-prominent jobs in the media to bring at least a minimal level of maturity and civility when they state their case.

    Of course, that's assuming I believe samseder is really Sam Seder ... and on the Internet, that's about as advisable as assuming the Nigerian who just sent you an e-mail you is genuinely interested in sharing his $14 million fortune with you.

    By Blogger The4thEstate, at 21 November, 2005 14:05  

  • Correction -- make that:

    "the Nigerian who just sent you an e-mail ..."

    By Blogger The4thEstate, at 21 November, 2005 14:06  

  • I have an idea Olbermann can team up with Sam Seder for a program no wants to listen too or hear. Heck, they can pay Dick Tuck and Justin to watch. Try this some time go to the state fair in Dallas and start screaming. You will have a bigger audience than Sam Seder.

    By Blogger billy rodgers, at 21 November, 2005 22:56  

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