The Radio Equalizer: Brian Maloney

26 October 2006

Rush Limbaugh, Michael J Fox, Mainstream Media

PILING ON RUSH

In Firestorm Over Comments, No Sign Of Calming





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After days of an unprecedented mainstream media attack against talk titan Rush Limbaugh, the firestorm over his reactions to Michael J Fox's latest political foray have yet to subside. By now, it's quite clear they aren't going to stop until Limbaugh is forced off the air in at least a few cities.

And the coverage isn't merely limited to the States, but has also gone worldwide, to places where most people have very likely never heard of El Rushbo.

Consider it a Mission Accomplished: shocked media consumers the world over get a taste of mean- spirited American conservatives at their worst. When even Britain's ultra- liberal Guardian is in the mix, you know this is more about partisanship than anything else.

And in Boston, as well as other cities, reporters looked for opportunities to get other talk hosts to join in the piling- on effort, calling it a "civil war" within the medium:


The furor over Rush Limbaugh’s verbal broadside against Michael J. Fox has touched off a civil war among talk jocks nationwide, with some rushing to the conservative talkmeister’s defense and others saying he leaped way over the line.

Even fellow talk jocks Scott Allen Miller and John DePetro on Boston’s WRKO - where Limbaugh’s show is heard 12 to 3 p.m. weekdays - said the right-wing yakker went too far when he mimicked Fox, who has Parkinson’s disease, and slammed the actor for supporting Democrats.

“When I first heard what Rush said about Michael J. Fox, my first reaction was, ‘Wow, what an (expletive),’ ” Miller said after yesterday’s show.

Fox is appearing in ads for several Democrats who support stem cell research. During the TV spots, the 45-year-old Fox violently shakes and sways - symptoms of Parkinson’s.

Limbaugh earlier this week claimed that Fox was “either off his medication or acting” during the ad. Limbaugh also imitated the trembling Fox, which was captured by the studio’s Web cam.

“Even if Michael J. Fox didn’t take his medicine, that doesn’t mean he’s exaggerating the effects of his disease,” Miller said. “It means he’s simply not hiding them anymore.”

Even so, Miller said most of the listeners who called his show took Limbaugh’s side.

Likewise, conservative ABC talk radio host Sean Hannity defended Limbaugh yesterday on “Good Morning America” and said the actor deserved to be criticized.


If only these reporters realized radio talk show hosts rarely back one another on much of anything! After all, it's a nasty business.

Add to that the fact that Limbaugh has spent the last two decades pretending other hosts don't exist and there is very little reason for anyone to defend him, unless they truly feel it is well- deserved.


A particularly telling example of media excess comes from the National Review's Ramesh Ponnuru:


Yesterday I did an interview with CNN, which I was told would focus on how the stem-cell issues were playing in this year's races. I wanted to talk about how the Michael J. Fox ads, and the affiliated campaigns, were a) promoting cloning and b) being dishonest. The interviewer wanted to talk about Rush Limbaugh.

When the segment appeared, I got two comments in. I said that candidates such as Jim Talent were not going to be hurt by the controversy over Rush Limbaugh's remarks, however "foolish" and "unhelpful" they were. (At the time I was not aware that Fox has said that in the past he has gone off his medications to dramatize his illness for political effect.) And I said that critics of the ads should point out how they oversimplify the issues. I didn't get a chance to say anything about cloning, or the pro-cloning campaign's dishonesty. The segment ended with the reporter saying that Fox denied supporting cloning or egg farming.

They only had a few minutes for this segment, and they wanted to touch a lot of bases, so I'm not complaining about the snippets from my interview that CNN chose to use. But today they've been running the bit on Limbaugh with the emphasis on my distancing myself from his comments, and I do think that they're playing up the Limbaugh story in part to help their team in the elections.


For the left, it took quite a distortion of the truth to get to this desired outcome.

How is that? When knee- jerk anti- Rush sentiments are removed, he's really guilty of only one thing: jumping to conclusions on whether Fox had really "faked" his symptoms in these political ads for dramatic effect. And for that, Limbaugh has already apologized!

In talk radio, newspaper columns, cable talking head- fests and the blogosphere, making assumptions without the facts occurs every hour of every day, with few consequences.

But when we're talking about Rush Limbaugh, during a period where liberals are feeling especially emboldened regarding their upcoming election chances, it's a whole different story. His longtime enemies, unable to bump him off after previous controversies, smell blood in the water this time.


Beyond that, where can Rush be properly criticized? Fox has in fact been stepping into more left wing political campaigning in recent years. And he did admit to forgoing medication in advance of his testimony before Congress in order to create a more dramatic effect.

In no way should Fox or any other Hollywood celebrity be able to enter the world of partisan politics and remain above criticism. And he's gone further: actually appearing in campaign commercials for Democrats. Fox has therefore placed himself firmly inside the fray.

In previous election seasons, conservatives would have been more inclined to defend Rush if they felt he was being mistreated. But with the right greatly unhappy with the Republican Party this year, all bets are off and he seems to be largely on his own.


That said, however, Rush still does a fantastic job of defending himself. From Wednesday's official transcript:


Now, ladies and gentlemen, yesterday during our discussion of the Michael J. Fox, Claire McCaskill ad flap and controversy, I warned you. I told you the big guns would be aimed at me and this program all day yesterday and into today, and that is the case. You have to understand who I am to these people. There's no reason they should like me. They ought to hate my guts. They used to have a monopoly before I came along.

For 18 years I have been hammering the Drive-By Media, often by name. It makes total sense they would despise me. It makes total sense that they would try to discredit me. I don't have any expectations of being treated fairly, and so I'm not disappointed. In fact, this is all kind of exciting, actually. I got a note from a friend. "Damn you, here you go again, becoming the focal point of election! Can you save some of this for the rest of us?" I said, "I'm not trying to do that. I'm just telling you what I think about what I see," but it's interesting to note, ladies and gentlemen. You've heard this program for the past two days. You've heard nearly four hours of detailed analysis of every issue involved in this controversy.

Yet after you hear it, you turn on the Drive-By Media, and you hear one line, you hear one line from what I said the past two days, and that line is, "he's either acting or off his medications," and that line is not even put in context. The reason I speculated that Mr. Fox might have been off his medications is because he's admitted he does that. I've got audio sound bites here today of him saying it. One of them to Diane Sawyer who apparently forgot it, that he had said that to her and tore into me this morning while interviewing Sean Hannity on Good Morning America. So here you are. You're out there. You're listening to this program regularly. You heard the in-depth analysis of all of this. You turn on any other media outlet, and you are stunned, and you are shocked, and you are in disbelief over how they miss it, miss it totally, miss it purposely.



You wonder, wait a minute, these are the people smarter than all the rest of us. These are the people who have been trained to go out and find the meaning and the truth in every news story out there and pass it on. Then you realize that that's not at all what they are about. I imagine many of you are rather pleased with yourselves today. You ought to feel a little bit superior to the alleged best and brightest journalists out there. You heard what I said.

They could have heard what I said, but they don't listen. They simply get their reports from the AP or whoever, but if they listen to this program, there's no way they could report on it the way they have -- well, take that back. Yes, there is an action line to every story in the media. I am a story to the media, and thus I have an action line. The action line is, I personify -- I'm the poster boy -- for all of the negative stereotypes that they have created about conservatism, and anything they think fits that action line, moves it forward, they are happy to report, but what did you hear me discuss yesterday? You heard the discussion about stem cells versus embryonic stem cells, versus the controversy over federal funding.

You heard about the Missouri deception, the Chicago deception, the Minneapolis, Minnesota deception, and the Maryland deception that the Democrats are engaged in here using the actor Michael J. Fox. You heard about promising cures that don't exist in the stem cell research area. You heard about research in other areas to cure Parkinson's or to reduce its effects that is working, involving gene therapy, involving the insertion of a virus in the brain. You heard about that. By the way, that research is being funded by the Michael J. Fox Foundation. You heard all of that. You heard about which cures the smart money is investing in and not. You heard a number of things.

Do you wonder how it is the Drive-By Media misses all this? Do you wonder how it is they process information or why they process information the way that they do? It ought to be patently obvious to everyone, ladies and gentlemen. I'll tell you something else, as you will hear in the audio sound bites, advancing the notion, theory yesterday that the Democrats have a strategy of finding victims, either of illness or unfortunate circumstance, they trot them out as infallible.

They can say what they say with impunity. Nobody, even when they enter the political arena of ideas, nobody is allowed to respond to them, nobody is allowed to criticize them.


If your Radio Equalizer had one piece of long- term advice for Rush (in the unlikely event he would choose to accept our analysis), it would be this: spend more time acknowledging your allies on the right and it will be returned to you in spades when needed.

A lot has changed since the days when you completely ruled the roost. Plugging your favorite blogs was a recent step in the right direction, let's see a lot more of that kind of effort in the future.

In the meantime, don't expect mainstream media libs to back down until they've caused Limbaugh to lose sponsors and affiliates. This time, they feel like they've finally got him right where they want him. But since Rush isn't running for anything, perhaps it would be a great way for so-called "progressives" to waste their time.

UPDATE: HuffPo types gang up on Rush this morning. Meanwhile, Kathryn Lopez notes that the Republican response to Fox's ad is generating just as much attention.


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71 Comments:

  • i don't even need to say that i hate Limbaugh, because i've made that clear before. but here's the deal - yeah, people always say mean things about the other side. BOTH sides do it. nothing new or offensive there. the reason this has become such a big deal is because people love Michael J. Fox. he never let them down by getting arrested or doing stupid, typical-celebrity things. he was always seen as a wholesome figure, and now that he has Parkinson's people feel sorry for him. admittedly, i like him. but there are some things that people are still too touchy to talk about or make fun of. example - people are still too shook up to be making crocodile hunter death jokes.

    i don't want it to seem like i am defending Limbaugh, but people are being too sensitive on this issue. the right doesn't get this pissed when we make fun of Limbaugh for popping pills, and we just have to ignore this and move on. there really are bigger issues for us to concentrate on.

    By Blogger hardcore conservative genious, at 26 October, 2006 09:27  

  • Rush Limbaugh is a low life, plain and simple, an immoral scumbag, a drug addled, 3 times divorced low life, who judges others morality while living an immoral life of drugs and prostitution, I pull no punches. This is exactly what the man is. Fistsfull of viagra anyone?? he was trolling for prostitutes on vacation.
    Fox was not faking anything, that is how a person being treated for Parkinson'sd looks like as medical experts have corrected the drug addled swine. For anyone to defend this sick ghoul, says a lot about their personality. I wonder what skeletons are in Maloney's closet? Only a degenerate would defned a degenerate like Rush.
    If a "liberal" attacked a conservative and called his or her disease "fake" or implied it like Rush did, I would be just as outraged.
    Brian of corse, is so in love with the concept of being a soviet-style Right wing pundit, he would defend Rush if Rush did an O.J.


    Limbaugh, Hannity, Oriley, Ingram, gallagher are soviet-style propagandists, meeting with the government for talking points. This is sick, this in unacceptable, and any right winger who defends this drug addled scum bag, is a scumbag him/her self

    By Blogger Minister of Propaganda, at 26 October, 2006 09:42  

  • Let's not forget Limbaugh was silent when Fox did a commercial for a Republican in 2004 about Stem Cell research, Arlen Spector I believe. Of corse, the total 1005 hack Limbaugh overlooks this fact. This man is a total hack. zero credibility, I guess Fox was jnot faking it when the endorsement was for a Republican??
    Any comments on your hero Maloney?
    any reasons why it ws only "fake" when he did a commercial for a dem???
    It is obvious to me, Fox will endorse anyone who favors stem-cell research. Kind of blows a hole in Limbaugh's theory, of the "liberal hollywood elitist'. Why was he endorsing a Republican in 04?
    The silence is deafing

    By Blogger Minister of Propaganda, at 26 October, 2006 10:07  

  • Just to pile it on, to avoid, some hack on this board say I'm a liar, here is a letter from Michael J Fox endorsing spector. The advertisments ran in Pa in 2004. limbaugh is a certifiable hack, amazing this low life has a career.
    **********************************

    Dear Friends,

    As many of you know, on September 28th I had the honor of testifying
    before
    the Senate Labor HHS Appropriations Subcommittee about the urgent need
    for
    more funding for Parkinson's research.

    The hearing has set in motion a real chance for a major increase in
    research
    funding, and your help is needed NOW to make this opportunity a
    reality. I
    was very encouraged to hear the tremendous promise for a Parkinson's
    cure in the
    next 5 to 10 years - AS LONG AS THERE IS ADEQUATE FUNDING. I was also
    very moved by the support of so many of you who came from across the
    country to fill the hearing room and make our voices heard.

    My message at the hearing was simple. This is a winnable war - as long
    as
    the funding matches the scientific potential. Along with Joan
    Samuelson,
    Jim Cordy and Dr. J. William Langston, we asked the subcommittee to
    provide $75 million MORE for Parkinson's focused research.

    Comments of Senator Arlen Specter, Chairman of the Subcommittee, gave us
    great hope when he stated: "This issue is in the hand of the
    Congress..."
    and that "...there is no reason that every valid research application
    should
    not be granted -- every one ought to be granted."

    The Senate is now considering the Labor/HHS Appropriations bill on the
    Senate floor, but there is no mention yet of the additional $75 million
    for
    Parkinson's focused research.

    WE NEED YOU TO SEND A MESSAGE TO CONGRESS: TELL THEM WE
    NEED AN ADDITIONAL $75 MILLION FOR PARKINSON'S FOCUSED RESEARCH. With
    this funding, the research community believes that we could find a cure
    to this disease in less than 10 years.

    Time is short: please call and e-mail NOW!

    Call Senator Arlen Specter, Chairman of the Labor HHS Senate
    Appropriations
    Subcommittee at (202) 224-4254, or e-mail:
    senator_specter at specter.senate.gov

    You can also call the Capitol Switchboard at (202) 224-3121 and ask for
    each
    of your two Senators - any of whom can help secure the additional
    funding.

    Send your message today!!!

    --Michael J. Fox

    By Blogger Minister of Propaganda, at 26 October, 2006 10:13  

  • Please Rush - Don't Apologize! Your big mouth is the epitome of modern Go F*** Yourself Republicanism - mean, uncaring, nasty. Without the factless, baseless assertion and the strawman, you'd be a mime. Anyone who actually believes anything you say is an imbecile.

    By Blogger Robert, at 26 October, 2006 11:35  

  • WOW.....this site is, interesting to say the least. Kinda informative, kinda humorous.
    Mr Maloney, congrats.

    If Mr Maloney berates Air America all the time, it's about as even as RUSH berating the DEMO fruit loop libs, all the time.

    And, as is typical, here ' they ' come.....the fruit loop libs.
    HATE BUSH, HATE BUSH, BLAME BUSH...and oh yea, GET THAT LIMBAUGH WHACKO!!!!

    Please, you people suck. You couldn't hit a barn 3 paces away from it. What are you people REALLY mad at?
    The fact Limbaugh MADE it, or the fact that Limbaugh LISTENERS DON"T listen to your crap anymore???

    The arena of ideas.....how funny, that YOU people ( yes I said YOU people ) can't even compete. If it's not forced listening, you blast it.....if it's not forced thru law, you demand that it is.

    Fox admits he goes off his meds to exagerate, gets called on it, and it's insto, RUSH! YOU INSENSITIVE LOUT!!!

    Pffffffffffftttttttttttt...........politics is dirty, or so I've been told. Fox entered the mud, so deal with it. I'm surprised at you people, the DEMO side that is....
    if you want a REAL honory ' stand up person for parkison cures ', why are you touting the Michael J Fox look-spiffy white boy ' image??

    Why aren't you putting up Mahommad Ali???


    Oh.....my bad.....he's black.

    Typical.

    By Blogger LNaranjoiv, at 26 October, 2006 11:55  

  • Wow, this hit nerve with the lefties. As always, that confirms Rush is correct and his message effective. As a resident of Missouri, I can tell you the Fox ad has hurt McCaskill. Can't wait until November 8th when the moonbats really come unhinged after they lose... Great website Brian. Your coverage of the Air America mess is unmatched. Keep up the good work!

    By Blogger RightInTune, at 26 October, 2006 12:13  

  • All irrelevant to the important points:

    - Limbaugh couldn't argue with what Fox was saying, so he instead tried to claim he was faking his symptoms. Sort of like conservatives couldn't deny that Kerry was right on national security and Bush was wrong, so they instead resorted to making up lies about Kerry's military service. Limbaugh types have no ideas, so they shoot the messenger. Fox's views are fair game, but Limbaugh has no response to Fox's views -- so he attacks his illness instead.

    - Limbaugh was openly lying about Fox, or else he knows nothing about Parkinson's disease. The shaking in the ad is a side effect of taking the medication, not of going off them. You don't mention that anywhere in your post.

    - Limbaugh physically made fun of a sick man's symptoms.

    So, to review, Limbaugh lies, distorts, has no ideas and hates sick people. But hey, he's "America's Anchorman."

    P.S., here's a good response to America-hater Limbaugh:


    The claim of exploitation is an attempt to shut up people with Parkinson's: anyone else can express their opinion about stem cell research, but if a person afflicted with Parkinson's shows their face in public to do the same, s/he's a shameless exploiter. According to Limbaugh's logic, the actual sufferers should just hide in their rooms and not freak us out with their unsightly condition.

    By Blogger M.A., at 26 October, 2006 12:18  

  • I keep forgetting who the current victim the libs put up that has "absolute moral authority." I wish they'd just pick one and stick with him or her.

    Ok, this week it's Micheal J. Fox. I guess that means conservatives can't be critical of ANYTHING he says.

    On a serious note, selling embrionic stem cell research as the a cure all is dispicable, and Fox got called on it.

    By Blogger Rich in MT, at 26 October, 2006 12:38  

  • Ok, this week it's Micheal J. Fox. I guess that means conservatives can't be critical of ANYTHING he says.

    The conservative drug addict didn't even try grappling with anything Fox said. He decided instead to go for the typically lazy option of mocking Fox's disease for the entertainment of his wacko wingnut audience. America is proud.

    By Blogger HeadHunter, at 26 October, 2006 13:05  

  • Once again, Maloney obfuscates an issue despicably, and blames those who try to hold the guilty party accountable.

    Rush did not apologize - he said he would apologize if he was wrong. He returned the very next day and reiterated his horrid, deplorable contentions.

    Funny, I didn't see that update from Brian.

    Go on, jerks. Ignore the reality that Rush has said and done something completely indefensible.

    You are cowards. You are disgusting.

    And Maloney leads the charge.

    Sad part is he can probably do this and still sleep at night.

    By Blogger TJ, at 26 October, 2006 13:23  

  • Limbaugh cares about ratings and money. Look at his comments quoted in this post. It's all about him. He's under attack and standing up against those evil libruls! Who cares what this drug addled prostitute's john thinks?

    By Blogger Erik, at 26 October, 2006 13:25  

  • Headhunter and the rest of you idiot liberals, Limbaugh spent literal hours addressing what Fox said. As a matter of fact, he's still talking about it. He's literally talking about it right now. Never, Never did Rush mock Parkinsons. You sir, are either stupid or lying.

    No one here has addressed the issue that Embryonic stem cell research is an incredibly poor place to poor money.

    Hint, it's all about abortion.

    Here's the Great One Mark Levin with his take on it.

    By Blogger Rich in MT, at 26 October, 2006 13:26  

  • "Never, Never did Rush mock Parkinsons. You sir, are either stupid or lying."

    http://www.crooksandliars.com/2006/10/25/olbermann-gives-us-the-visual-to-limbaughs-attack-on-michael-j-fox/

    Crooks and liars has the video - VIDEO - of Rush mocking victims of Parkinsons.

    It is ON VIDEO.

    Who's stupid and lying?

    By Blogger TJ, at 26 October, 2006 13:33  

  • Rich in MT - forget my crooks and liars URL - just follow the YOUTUBE link posted by m.a.

    Tell me he wasn't mocking victims of Parkinsons. Go ahead, lie.

    If you do, you're as pathetic and disgusting as Limbaugh.

    What's the matter? Don't like the truth?

    By Blogger TJ, at 26 October, 2006 13:37  

  • Micheal Fox lied.
    Olberman lied.
    Sam Seder lied.
    And you're stupid. Don't you know how to post a fricking link?

    By Blogger Rich in MT, at 26 October, 2006 13:41  

  • C'mon, Brian - you know you're not telling the whole story if you don't include the (easily provided) links to the video of Rush doing his bit.

    You also know he didn't really apologize.

    You also know that he followed up the next day with his original assertions.

    Why are none of these facts included in your story?

    By Blogger TJ, at 26 October, 2006 13:41  

  • Once again, as you LIB fruits come out of the closet...

    WHY, are you fronting michael J fox?
    WHo's on meds??

    Mahommad Ali isn't on any meds, and he HAS parkisons.....so, why isn't HE sending the message?

    Seems to me, your fruity loop lefty libs, are STILL perpetuating the sterotype of the bigot-racists that you truely are.

    Oh, but, make sure you BLAME BUSH and that A****hole LIMBAUGH!!!

    Too funny......
    I bet RUSH sleeps just fine too, given he's got one of those comfort beds, and he says his number is 70 something....
    must be nice!!!

    Have a great day folks......
    I look forward to the RUSH REPLAY on kfbk 1530 AM, sacto cali, home of the NEW lefty radio station, since they canned OUR radio host, Mark Williams.

    By Blogger LNaranjoiv, at 26 October, 2006 13:42  

  • so, Rich in MT, the video doesn't exist?

    How easily you behave despicably.

    By Blogger TJ, at 26 October, 2006 13:42  

  • By the way, I have a friend that has severe seizures caused by epilepsy. I have in the past contorted my body when explaining to others what happens when he has the siezures. I was not making fun of him. Neither was Rush making fun of Fox.

    But he blasted Fox's lame liberal idea about embryonic stem cell funding scam.

    By Blogger Rich in MT, at 26 October, 2006 13:46  

  • Not one of you idiot liberals can defend the lies that Fox spewed in the political ad. Because you can't. It's not about Rush, it's about a scam to get federal dollars to insure abortion forever. It's all about abortion.

    By Blogger Rich in MT, at 26 October, 2006 13:48  

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    By Blogger TJ, at 26 October, 2006 14:10  

  • Rich in MT, you are, at best, being disingenuous.

    When mimicking your friend's seizures, were you asserting your friend was faking it?

    You are deliberately ignoring the part about Limbaugh asserting, pretending to apologize, and asserting again that Fox was faking his symptoms.

    You are a liar. You are pathetic.

    And so is Maloney.

    By Blogger TJ, at 26 October, 2006 14:13  

  • Rich,

    You are the Barney Fife of the Blogospere.

    Stick to shearing sheep rather than weighing in on matters of importance. You may rely on right-wing radio commentators and James Dobson for your views but maintream America relys on qualified scientists to make judgements on the viability of research.

    And don't any of you freaks waste my time linking to an opinion of some pious researcher who represents less than .05% of the scientific community and probably opposes the teaching of evolution in school.

    Freaks are hypocritcal garbage who pretend not to notice the inconsistency between supporting in vitro fertilization and opposing stem-cell research. May you rot in Hell.

    By Blogger Elmonica, at 26 October, 2006 14:34  

  • Rush has every right to criticize Fox in his ads (and Fox would have every right to do the same should Limbaugh ever do political ads) but it was not really classy for El Rushbo to claim that Fox was faking it...that he was acting. Rush, were YOU faking the
    "deafness" during the Oxy Contin
    episode?

    It might not be appropriate for me to ask that question but I'm just doing what you did w/ MJFox and
    I guess fair is fair.

    By Blogger raccoonradio, at 26 October, 2006 14:40  

  • horrors--I'm agreeing with MoP? :)

    Oh wait:

    >>Limbaugh, Hannity, Oriley, Ingram, gallagher are soviet-style propagandists, meeting with the government for talking points.

    Spell check: O'Reilly, Ingraham...
    and if anyone is a Soviet-style
    propagandist it's the libs on
    BankruptAir America. There.
    That feels more like it! :)

    By Blogger raccoonradio, at 26 October, 2006 14:43  

  • As I've mentioned before, I LOVE it when the Rethug scumbags reveal themselves for what they are.

    As for Limpbowel's trusty comrades-in-arms and adoring fans...they have as well.

    The man is clearly in the throes of "hillbilly heroin" addiction and, with his weight and health profile, does not have much time left (mercifully) on this planet.

    But these conservofreaks supposedly believe in taking care of "their own" quietly, without benefit of any outside scrutiny or intervention.

    If they actually did believe in taking care of their own, this pig would have been suspended off the air immediately and "quietly", a la Foley, been whisked off to some rehab, so as to save him from himself (and not expose the Rethugs' real anti-health, anti-science, pro-Big Pharma agenda any further).

    And so it goes...

    Let's just call Mark Levin what he REALLY is (and see if you ever work again in this industry....)

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 26 October, 2006 14:44  

  • Rich in Mt, is a low life. case closed A filthy low life, defending the immoral 3 times divorced scum bag at all costs. Again if Limbaugh did an OJ, low life bottom feeders like Rich would defend him. conservatives are indeed psychotic, not us, not the 70%ers, the 30%ers are bottom feeding low lifes.

    LNaranjoiv is a low life as well. Note not a single right winger explained why Fox also did a campaign ad for Republican Spector, as I proved to you worthless bottom feeding degenerates.

    If Fox is a political opportunist, why did he do a commercial for a Republican in 2004???? I will probably wait forever for an answer. Stem cell research has nothing to do with abortion, as resident sociopath Rich claims. Abortion??? Fox is big on this issue because of his illness. This is not rocket science. He campaigned for a Republican, and a democrat, he is big on this issue. Don't wave the abortion thing in our faces and pretend you are high and mighty. You are an immoral low life. How many unwanted children have you adopted Rich? You will never get your ban on abortion, the right wingers laugh behind your backs, as the book Tempting Faith by David Kao {formally of the dept of faith based initaves} points out, Kao of corse a real Christian and conservative who dared to speak out who felt used by the pedophiles in the GOP, who tout morality as they hit on teenage boys. They laugh at the Fundi folks they use and abuse you. Read the book Rich, you naive fool.
    You clowns are paper thin, it is pathetic, and yes indeed mentally ill.

    Evil Liberal Propaganda Network
    10Pm-mid {EST} monday and Thursday on indieairplay.com
    we are back and taking it to the mentally ill faction of the GOP

    By Blogger Minister of Propaganda, at 26 October, 2006 14:45  

  • Elmonica, I'm in total agreement.

    Rest assured, I pray every night for their speedy destruction.

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 26 October, 2006 14:46  

  • Headhunter and the rest of you idiot liberals, Limbaugh spent literal hours addressing what Fox said. As a matter of fact, he's still talking about it. He's literally talking about it right now.

    Then why did the drug addict feel the need to personally attack and mock Fox and his condition? It's obvious that the drug addict realized his side of the issue was steaming pile of dogshit and so he does what all right-wing shills do whenever their kooky arguments crash into reality and logic - he resorts to personal attacks.

    Never, Never did Rush mock Parkinsons. You sir, are either stupid or lying.

    And you sir, are an absolute moron for even trying to push these shameless lies when there is a video clearly showing the drug addict mocking Fox. That only works on your fellow brainless dittoheads. Spin again dimwit.

    By Blogger HeadHunter, at 26 October, 2006 15:09  

  • I see the Libs are coming unglued that their favorite tactic of putting up "an unassailable person spewing the Democrat line" is not working anymore. Fox went too far. He can't keep ESC separate from the ASC therapies. Facts are facts. There are 72 therapies derived from Adult Stem Cells and ZERO from Embryonic Stem Cells.

    Amendment 2 writes a right to clone humans in the Missouri constitution.

    You Libs just can't be honest and forthright in any of your political endevours.

    By Blogger PCD, at 26 October, 2006 15:24  

  • See a tongue-in-cheek visual that gives Rush Limbaugh a dose of his own medicine...here:

    www.thoughttheater.com

    By Blogger Daniel DiRito, at 26 October, 2006 15:28  

  • Maloney posted;

    Beyond that, where can Rush be properly criticized? Fox has in fact been stepping into more left wing political campaigning in recent years. And he did admit to forgoing medication in advance of his testimony before Congress in order to create a more dramatic effect.

    In no way should Fox or any other Hollywood celebrity be able to enter the world of partisan politics and remain above criticism. And he's gone further: actually appearing in campaign commercials for Democrats. Fox has therefore placed himself firmly inside the fray

    ********************************
    Maloney; campagining for Spector{R-PA} in 2004, is stepping into left wing politics??? Let's see you retract your lies..... i will be waiting. What does his congres testimony have to do with the commerical? Already, doctors stated he was clearly on the medication during the commerical. where is your proof he did this before congress anyway?

    By Blogger Minister of Propaganda, at 26 October, 2006 15:41  

  • Sick, sick neocons. Immoral.

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 26 October, 2006 15:45  

  • Good point.

    Fox did support Specter.

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 26 October, 2006 16:06  

  • I don't think Rush mocked Fox. If he did, it would be much closer to what your liberals are doing when you mock Rush. Now THAT'S some good old fashioned mocking. For you to equate what Rush did to what the left does to Rush is silly. Rush never mocked Fox and/or Parkinsons sufferers. Furthermore, the fact that Fox has a history of supporting politicians that actually voted against Adult Stem Cell research really makes the "above the fray" conclusion stupid.

    By the way, mock away, Rush seems well equipped to handle it.

    By the way, if Embryonic Stem Cell research looked rewarding, why isn't more private money being directed at it?

    By Blogger Rich in MT, at 26 October, 2006 16:27  

  • Go ahead, Rich in MT - disseminate, obfuscate, lie, ignore...

    We understand what you and Brian Maloney are doing...

    By Blogger TJ, at 26 October, 2006 16:35  

  • Ok TJ,

    You caught me. I'm sorry, I criticized Fox. I keep forgetting which left-wing victim gets to have the "absolute moral authority" role. When did Cindy lose that title? There's been so many.

    When your frothy emotional appeal hits my wallet I call bullshit. Fox participated in a political campaign and spoke lies.

    Rep. Benjamin Cardin voted against stem cell research and Fox backed him. This is pure politics. This isn't about a cure for parkinsons, it's about abortion. The only reason Cardin voted against the stem cell research is because it wasn't EMBRYONIC stem cell research.

    By Blogger Rich in MT, at 26 October, 2006 16:53  

  • Again, if Embryonic Stem Cell research looked rewarding, why isn't more private money being directed at it?

    p.s. Who said I was against abortion? I certainly didn't say that, because I'm not.

    By Blogger Rich in MT, at 26 October, 2006 17:07  

  • TJ,
    What EXACTLY are me and Mr. Maloney doing? As far as I know, we haven't ever directly communicated. For all I know, he may think of me as someone to be tolerated. I often go off topic, insult other commenters, and generally don't play nice. But if he said the word, I'd be gone from this blog forever.

    By Blogger Rich in MT, at 26 October, 2006 17:15  

  • proganda whatever you call yourself.....bite me.

    On RUSH's show today, some lady called in, and made a point of mention:

    The former POPE JOHN PAUL had parkinsons...and there was a call out for HIM to step down, and not embarrass himself because he had a disease.

    You want to drag out what FOX did for specter?? What did the LIBS do for Pope John Paul II????
    Tell him to go hide, cause he was sick and embarrassing????

    Yea, prop, tell me again, what a psychopath rightwing nut I am....surprise to you azzmunch, since my political leanings are left.

    ( or, so the POLL I took once stated, based upon my answers )

    By Blogger LNaranjoiv, at 26 October, 2006 18:41  

  • Rich, you know exactly what you are doing, and you know exactly how I am comparing you to Brian, and why...

    Obviously, from your multi-post response, you are feeling the heat of not actually convincing anyone than those who are distinctly on your side, and that of Brian's.

    No reasonable, intelligent person can be on the fence about what Rush did and why, and no honest person can be on your (and Brian's) side about it...

    And, of course, you know that...

    By Blogger TJ, at 26 October, 2006 18:49  

  • Then why did the drug addict feel the need to personally attack and mock Fox and his condition?

    Because he invited it by lying about someone and faking?

    seriously folks.... the beauty of what Limbaugh did was to change the topic of discussion away from the candidate to himself.

    Rush can afford the notoriety and not lose a fan.

    It's brillant sacrifice bunt for the Republicans.

    By Blogger Lokki, at 26 October, 2006 18:49  

  • TJ,
    I'm not in the business of convincing anybody of anything. I'm just pointing out how stupid you are. Guys like you are sold on the idea that somehow conservatives are mean and want guys like Fox to die from parkinsons. That kind of lunacy can't be resolved, just highlighted.

    Again, if Rush was mocking, he's an amature at it compared to the mocking that is directed at him. But I'm sure he can handle it. He, and I, will sleep well tonight.

    By Blogger Rich in MT, at 26 October, 2006 19:07  

  • "Guys like you are sold on the idea that somehow conservatives are mean and want guys like Fox to die from parkinsons. That kind of lunacy can't be resolved, just highlighted."

    I've never lied to support my argument like you just did.

    I've never obfuscated the argument or left out the facts like you have, and like Brian has (and this is far from the first time for Brian).

    Enjoy your sleep, Rich.

    By Blogger TJ, at 26 October, 2006 19:11  

  • what did the LIBS do for Pope John Paul II????
    Tell him to go hide, cause he was sick and embarrassing????

    Refresh my memory, which "liberal" called for the pope to resign?

    By Blogger Minister of Propaganda, at 26 October, 2006 19:11  

  • Some idiot said:
    You are an immoral low life. How many unwanted children have you adopted Rich? You will never get your ban on abortion, the right wingers laugh behind your backs, as the book Tempting Faith by David Kao {formally of the dept of faith based initaves} points out, Kao of corse a real Christian and conservative who dared to speak out who felt used by the pedophiles in the GOP, who tout morality as they hit on teenage boys.

    Wow, such anger! Apparently you think it's okay to mock the religious beliefs of a whole group of Americans while your victim of the week goes unchallenged in his lies. By the way, I'm not a fundamentalist christian, and I don't have an issue with abortion, but thanks for the mention!

    Yes, it's true. Rush did not mock Fox. But you mocked Fundamentalist Christians, but it's ok, they are strong enough to take it. I'll ask my friends to pray for you. Cheers!

    By Blogger Rich in MT, at 26 October, 2006 19:39  

  • R from MT: I'm not in the business of convincing anybody of anything.

    It shows. Crying that you're incapable of engaging Fox's views on the issue and so resorting to lying about him and mocking his disability is OK... is not going to convince anyone of anything.

    Yes, it's true. Rush did not mock Fox. But you mocked Fundamentalist Christians,...

    And so finally... the wingnut concedes the truth. But still defends the drug addict's appalling behavior with an insipid "tu quoque" justification. If you could read you would have understood that MOP respects real Christians and real conservatives like Kao. But it appears you can't... so your pathetic whining is just meaningless drivel.

    By Blogger HeadHunter, at 26 October, 2006 20:09  

  • Again, the fact that the neocons are willing to watch Limpbowel die for their cause without running him into a rehab just demonstrates how they eat their own (and why such "business ethics" have no business in talk radio, or even America for this matter).

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 26 October, 2006 22:45  

  • Headhunter,
    Can't you read? Read what I wrote again. I said it's true, Rush didn't mock Fox. I then said, it is is true, you mocked Fundamentalist Christians. It has nothing to do with a logical argument, it's just 2 statements.


    So far, NOBODY here has refuted the statements that Fox lied in the political ad. He lied is fricking arse off. All of your arguments center around Limbaugh being an insensitive SOB and they ALL miss the point. The point is EMBRYONIC STEM CELL RESEARCH has not and does not appear to be a fruitful field of study. The only reason for the left's insistance on funding it is a back door towards abortions in continuity.

    By Blogger Rich in MT, at 26 October, 2006 23:34  

  • Isn't the real issue Fox? He is the one who appeared in the ads.

    Who cares what Rush says about him. I mean, the way you libs respond you would think the guy is important or something. If he is the nothing you say he is then shut the hell up...because who cares?

    I dare say if a Republican made a commerical and had a young child who said, "my mommy almost aborted me because John Kerry voted for partial birth abortions" you would be a friggen nut case...the cries and screams of injustice and untruth would ring round the world...because it wouldn't be a true statement.

    Rush was right to raise the issue of Fox's commericals. So you don't like the way he did it -- big whip -- get a life and stop giving a damn about the low life...unless of course you have a soft spot for good talk radio.

    By Blogger AUWarEagle, at 26 October, 2006 23:34  

  • Where did Michael J. Fox lie AT ALL?

    Rich, please don't ram your anti-choice agenda down our throats. This is about minimizing human suffering, AMERICANS in human suffering.

    Why would any decent, civilized person set themselves in opposition to such a basic concept?

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 26 October, 2006 23:36  

  • For the last time hashbitch, I'm not against abortions. Can't you fucking read?

    Fox lied by implying that if you don't embrace the left wing agenda then you are against finding a cure for Parkinsons. Lie
    Fox claims that embryonic stem cell research is real close to finding cures for several diseases. Lie.
    Fox claimed that Micheal Steele favors criminalizing stem cell research. Lie.
    Claims Steele favors eliminating stem cell research. Wrong, Steel is against federal funding of embryonic stem cell research.

    Adult stem cell research is where the action is at. That's where all the results are rolling in. Adult stem cells have been used clinically about 25,000 times.

    That's just off the top of my head, I won't do more until you can demonstrate that you can fucking read.

    By Blogger Rich in MT, at 26 October, 2006 23:51  

  • By the way Hashbitch, your accusation of conservatives not caring about relieving suffering in cases like Fox's indicates you don't know your opposition.

    I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY IN THIS COUNTRY THAT OPPOSES STEM CELL RESEARCH.

    Idiot.

    By Blogger Rich in MT, at 27 October, 2006 00:01  

  • Playing with words, playing with yourself. The oldest neocon trick.

    Redirect!!

    I said it!! Except that I didn't say it!!

    I support it!! But only when I don't!!

    You are totally ignorant of this entire issue (what happens to the unused cells? Uh, duh, I know, except when I don't!!)

    Your support of a strung-out heroin addict's ridicule of a disabled and well-respected citizen just proves the vile filth that you, of accursed womb, issue forth from every pore...

    And you honestly have no argument.

    Sometimes I think I'm a little too hip for the room here....

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 27 October, 2006 00:28  

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    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 27 October, 2006 00:30  

  • Hash,
    Is that you in the fourth photo down? Hashbitch Photo It would sure explain a lot of things.

    By Blogger Rich in MT, at 27 October, 2006 00:40  

  • Rush is very lucky to have such a powerful advocate in his war against the sick and disabled. Why are so many Republicans afraid to take on the wheelchair lobby?

    By Blogger Jon Swift, at 27 October, 2006 00:56  

  • Rich, it's not as if your voice ever really mattered anyway....

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 27 October, 2006 01:07  

  • Jon, this is not new.

    They've done this from day one.

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 27 October, 2006 01:08  

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    By Blogger HeadHunter, at 27 October, 2006 07:16  

  • R in MT: It has nothing to do with a logical argument, it's just 2 statements.

    You got that right. It certainly has nothing to do with a logical argument. And it definitely is just 2 empty, unsubstantiated, opinion-based statements.

    So far, NOBODY here has refuted the statements that Fox lied in the political ad. He lied is fricking arse off.

    Typical wingnut, shifting the the burden of proof. You're the one making the these unsupported statements about Fox. Therefore the burden of proof lies with you. Do you understand that how that works?

    But so far you have provided NOTHING to support your statements about Fox. NOTHING. So cough up something more than your ideologically driven opinion and people might take you more seriously. Got it?

    Fox lied by implying that if you don't embrace the left wing agenda then you are against finding a cure for Parkinsons. Lie

    Demonstrably false. He supported Republican Arlen Spector in 2004 on the same issue.

    Fox claims that embryonic stem cell research is real close to finding cures for several diseases. Lie.

    Where's your proof that this is a lie?

    Fox claimed that Micheal Steele favors criminalizing stem cell research. Lie.

    Where? Fox certainly made no such claim in the Maryland ad. Refer to where he made this claim about Steele.

    Claims Steele favors eliminating stem cell research. Wrong, Steel is against federal funding of embryonic stem cell research.

    Again Fox made no such claim in the Maryland ad. Refer to where he made this claim about Steele.

    All of your arguments center around Limbaugh being an insensitive SOB and they ALL miss the point.

    I believe the point WAS the drug addict's appalling mocking of Fox because the big fat shill was incapable of intelligently engaging Fox's views on the issue. The drug addict may not agree with Fox on the issue, there is absolutely no justification for mocking a disabled American.

    The point is EMBRYONIC STEM CELL RESEARCH has not and does not appear to be a fruitful field of study.

    Show something to support this claim. You have provided NOTHING but your hollow opinion here.

    Adult stem cell research is where the action is at. That's where all the results are rolling in. Adult stem cells have been used clinically about 25,000 times.

    Again. Provide some evidence to support this claim.

    That's just off the top of my head,...

    It shows. But that is not how it works. If you make statements that someone is lying, then you better have something more than hollow opinion "off the top of your head" to back it up. Oh... and fringe blogs and wacko websites are just more worthless opinion. OK?

    By Blogger HeadHunter, at 27 October, 2006 07:53  

  • Rush is an affirmative action hire.

    He can't be fired.

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 27 October, 2006 08:47  

  • Ok, 62 comments into this and finally a liberal attempts to take on the substance of Fox's words. For the rest of this board, ALL of the liberal comments were about either Rush mocking Fox (Rush did NOT mock Fox), or telling me how evil or stupid I am. Case in point, Jon Swift enters the fray with some delusion that conservatives must hate people in wheelchairs. (Jon, the victim of the week is Fox, not the wheelchair guys). The liberal ploy of placing a victim out front to front their cause and then claim that anybody disagreeing with their victim is somehow evil doesn't play any more. We'll shove that shit right back up your self righteous asses.

    Not once has anybody acknowledged that Rush and other radio commentators spent a couple days knocking Fox's words out of the park. Now headhunter wants ME to get into some sort of argument with him point by point. Fine. I'll be back tomorrow. I have work to do today. In the mean time see if you can figure out more ways to mock Rush, you guys are good at it.

    By Blogger Rich in MT, at 27 October, 2006 09:04  

  • Rich;
    he liberal ploy of placing a victim out front to front their cause and then claim that anybody disagreeing with their victim


    Not a liberal ploy, asshat. Fox is not doing this for politics, again he backed spector in 2004 for the same issue. Limbaugh's argument is BULLSHIT, based on this simple fact. You defend the indefensible, because you love the letter "R" over logic, honesty and common sense.

    By Blogger Minister of Propaganda, at 27 October, 2006 09:55  

  • R in MT: The liberal ploy of placing a victim out front to front their cause and then claim that anybody disagreeing with their victim is somehow evil doesn't play any more. We'll shove that shit right back up your self righteous asses.

    Perfect. You wingnuts can keep mocking disabled Americans, and you can keep defending appalling behavior, and more and more of middle America will realize how extreme and unacceptable you theocons are.

    By Blogger HeadHunter, at 27 October, 2006 10:07  

  • You wingnuts can keep mocking disabled Americans

    THE BASIC QUESTION:

    Does being a "disabled American" give you a special privilege to speak without having the contents of your speech disputed?

    Does being the mother of a dead veteran give you a special privilege to speak without having the contents of your speech disputed?


    The rest of this discussion is all just name calling and distraction

    By Blogger Lokki, at 27 October, 2006 13:09  

  • Does being a "disabled American" give you a special privilege to speak without having the contents of your speech disputed?

    Of course not. If you disagree with a disabled American's views then debate them on the issues. But don't mock their disability.

    Does being the mother of a dead veteran give you a special privilege to speak without having the contents of your speech disputed?

    Again, of course not. But mocking that mother for her loss just because you disagree with her is nothing more than thuggery.

    The rest of this discussion is all just name calling and distraction

    You're just whining because decent Americans caught a glimpse of standard right-wing smear tactics. Boo hoo.

    By Blogger HeadHunter, at 27 October, 2006 16:20  

  • But don't mock their disability

    If the disabled American (nice phrase!) deliberately overemphasizes their disability in order to make it more dramatic - is it OK to point that out?

    What Mr. Fox did was a "dramatic reenactment" of his condition.

    mocking that mother for her loss

    You'll have to come up with some specific examples of this claim. I think the criticism has been that she claims some special moral authority because of her son's death.

    Assuming that it exists, exactly what does that special moral authority has to do with kissing Jesse Jackson and Hugo Chavez ?

    By Blogger Lokki, at 31 October, 2006 10:53  

  • If the disabled American (nice phrase!) deliberately overemphasizes their disability in order to make it more dramatic - is it OK to point that out?

    What Mr. Fox did was a "dramatic reenactment" of his condition.


    If you have evidence that Fox is being dishonest about his condition, then let's have it. But it's obvious that the drug addict was just blindly attacking and mocking Fox. First, the drug addict says Fox is deliberately off his medication, then he says Fox is deliberately taking too much medication. It's obvious that the drug addict didn't have a fucking clue.

    mocking that mother for her loss

    You'll have to come up with some specific examples of this claim.


    Sure. Here's another steaming pile of rightwing lies and smear.

    I think the criticism has been that she claims some special moral authority because of her son's death.

    Absolute crap. She believed her son died in an unnecessary war that was started through the lies and incompetence of this administration. She wanted an accounting for her son's death from the idiot in chief. That was enough to bring out the wingnut smear merchants.

    By Blogger HeadHunter, at 01 November, 2006 13:04  

  • Why over-dignify this "Rich in MT" ideologue with so many responses. He is clearly not worth the effort. If anything is interesting or original about him at all, it is his cryptic name. Does "Rich" mean that you have so much money that you can insulate yourself from the real world to maintian your anachronistic ideology, or is your name just "Rich" as in "HI IM RICH, AND THIS IS MY FATHER/BROTHER DARYLL, AND MY MOTHER/SISTER EVANGELINE"

    By Blogger hannity, at 06 November, 2006 22:29  

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