The Radio Equalizer: Brian Maloney

21 March 2007

Arnold Schwarzenegger, Rush Limbaugh, Talk Radio


Why Rush - Arnold Feud May Soon Cool

*** With Exclusive Limbaugh Interview Below ***

Is this a real battle, or one designed to feed the mainstream media's insatiable appetite for public conflict?

While California Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger and talk titan Rush Limbaugh may have launched a few verbal missiles from one coast to the other in recent days, emerging signs of an end to this mini- Cold War are now on the horizon.

That's according to Limbaugh himself, who provided exclusive details to your Radio Equalizer late last night. With some listeners (and callers) wondering why Rush's on- air response seemed so subdued, we put the question to him directly. More on that below.

In addition, has just announced that the Governator himself will be making a special appearance on today's program, scheduled for 1pm EDT. Could a peace offering be in the works?

Today's on- air summit, which is sure to draw a huge audience, was sparked by Arnold's contention in a network interview that El Rushbo is "irrelevant". Here's the original Los Angeles Times item that exploded across the Internet yesterday:

Schwarzenegger Calls Rush Limbaugh Irrelevant

"All irrelevant. Rush Limbaugh is irrelevant. I am not his servant." - Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger this morning on the "Today Show," speaking to Campbell Brown.

During the one-on-one interview the Republican-registered California governor was asked about criticism from Limbaugh and other conservatives that he has become a Democrat in disguise for supporting stem-cell research, mandatory curbs on carbon dioxide emissions and universal health care.

Schwarzenegger said he is "the people's servant of California. What they call me - Democrat or Republican or in the center, this and that - that is not my bottom line. This is for them to talk about."

In recent weeks, Limbaugh has complained the Schwarzenegger's views on global warming are "no different than what Greenpeace would say." When the governor called a proposed $12 billion levy on hospitals, doctors and health plans a "loan, because it ... goes back to health care," Limbaugh couldn't stop laughing on the air. He said Schwarzenegger's rhetorical spin was no different than former President Bill Clinton calling tax increases "investments."

Limbaugh, it should be noted, has always been cautious about Schwarzenegger. In August 2003, during the recall election, Limbaugh told his listeners: "Hear me now and believe me later, my friends. All these conservative orgasms over Arnold Schwarzenegger are ... fake."

Limbaugh said Schwarzenegger was a closet liberal who supported abortion, gay adoption and gun control, and recoiled at comparisons to former President Ronald Reagan. "This guy may be the next actor elected governor of California, but that's where the similarity between him and Reagan ends."

And, from the official transcripts, here is some of Rush's response:

RUSH: Yes, a one-on-one interview today on the Today Show. Arnold is appearing on the Today show a lot lately, and every time he appears on the Today Show, he's asked about me! Every time he's on the Today show, whoever it is -- Matt Lauer, today it was Campbell Brown, it could be Meredith Vieira, it could even could be Al Joker out there doing the weather at 30 Rock -- they throw something up at Arnold that I have said recently, and it happened today.

He called me "irrelevant." He said he's "not my servant," and I don't know how it is I can be irrelevant when every time he shows up on the Today Show they ask him about me! I'm just sure he's sick and tired of hearing about it. He's sick and tired of getting the questions. The last time he was asked about me, he was very diplomatic.

He said (Arnold impression), "Vell, ve still smoke stogies togethah," and so forth, and that would provide a bridge for common ground and so forth and so on. But here is the governor of the largest state acknowledging me, while claiming all this time that I am "irrelevant." They had this exchange, Campbell Brown with Governor Schwarzenegger.

BROWN: Rush Limbaugh is saying that you're not really a Republican. You're a Democrat pretending to be a Republican. Why?

SCHWARZENEGGER: Rush Limbaugh is irrelevant. I'm not his servant. I am the people's servant of California. What they call me, if it's a Democrat or a Republican or in the center or I changed or this or that, that's not my bottom line. This is for them to talk about.

RUSH: All right. Now, I could be charitable in this and I could say, "When he calls me 'irrelevant,' not irrelevant as a human or irrelevant as a media figure or irrelevant as a conservative. What I say is irrelevant because he doesn't care, is what he might mean." That's being charitable. He's just calling me irrelevant because he doesn't care what I say or anybody else says. I'm irrelevant in terms of determining the future course of the state of California because that's his job. I could be charitable and take it that way, and since I'm one of good cheer and optimism and I basically think Arnold's a nice guy, I choose to take it that way.

I don't think that Arnold is referring to me as "irrelevant," as a has-been, as a passer-by, as a human being or what have you. I'm getting looks of doubt from Mr. Snerdley. You have a different interpretation of this? (interruption)

Well, come on! Snerdley says the question's wrong. Once you say, "Rush Limbaugh is saying you're not really Republican..." Well, that's true. To these people in the Drive-By Media, Republican and conservative equals the same thing. I have said he's not a conservative -- and, by the way, I want to remind all of you people in California, from the get-go I have told you he was not a conservative. He's a good guy, but he's not a conservative. He's a Republican.

There are a lot of Republicans who aren't conservatives. He's conservative on some things, although much fewer as time has gone on. But, folks, let me tell you why this is important. Governor Schwarzenegger ran for office as a conservative after the recall of the dry and dull Gray Davis. He was subject of many hit pieces in the Drive-By Media out there. The LA Times tried to destroy him with all these womanizing stories and so forth, and it actually drew people to him because he's a likable figure and has an image and a reputation forged on celluloid in Hollywood movies.

Now, here's the truth of the matter. Arnold Schwarzenegger has done the typical sellout move. He has sold out, and there are too many conservatives selling out these days. You can find 'em all over Washington, DC. I want to remind you that one of the problems I have is people ask me all the time, "Have you chosen a Republican presidential candidate?" I answer, "Not yet," and one of the things I'm concerned about is there's not one Reagan conservative in the bunch -- which is okay, but then don't tell me that there is.

Don't tell me that candidate A -- be it Giuliani or Mitt Romney or McCain or whoever else -- is the new Reagan. There isn't a Reagan out there. There was one Reagan. We can dream that there might be another. We can't be imprisoned by that, but conservatism is what it is. Conservatism is not subject to redefinition on the basis of presidential candidates who are 30% conservative, 40%, 50%, whatever percent conservative they are. That's not the new conservatism, at least it won't be for me -- and that is my point. They're good guys, they're Republicans, but they're not conservatives. I happen to be a conservative and I happen to be oriented toward conservative triumph, and conservatism won't triumph if we water it down and dilute it and say that people are 60% conservative or whatever, happen to be the definition of new conservative.

The Democrats would love that, and the Drive-By Media would love, if we conservatives begin to give up our principles and water it down on the basis, "Well, there isn't another Reagan," or on the basis that we can't win as conservatives.

That has been disproven over and over again by actual experience from Ronald Reagan forward. It is when Republicans do not campaign as conservatives that they lose. Witness November of 2006, witness any previous election where Republican conservatives failed to govern as conservatives or campaign in the future as conservatives. They paid the price. This is what Schwarzenegger is doing, and to me, it's worth pointing out. This is akin to what happened in 1976 with Ford versus Reagan. Reagan came along; he was a conservative. Gerald Ford represented the country club blue-blood wing of the Republican Party.

Of course everybody says Reagan had this 11th Commandment, "Thou shalt not attack another Republican." It didn't exist when he was campaigning against Gerald Ford. It was a close race. Of course, Ford won at that convention. It was in Detroit. But it all set the stage for Reagan ending up out of that convention more popular than Ford was and set up the 1980 landslide over Jimmy Carter. So what happens when Schwarzenegger or other former conservatives sell out, is they attract a certain percentage of people who will vote for them because of party identification.

So he stays a Republican but starts talking like a liberal Democrat. Well, some Republicans obviously will stay with him on the basis of party loyalty, and then he can attract some liberal Democrats as well, because he's actually sounding and proposing things -- like, remember, this new tax increase that he proposed, he was going to call it loans. There's a little blog at the today. Who was the author of this? It could be Robert Salladay.

At any rate, it talks about Arnold referring to me as "irrelevant" today, and then the guy writes this: "In recent weeks, Limbaugh has complained that Schwarzenegger's views on global warming are 'no different than what Greenpeace would say.' When the governor called a proposed $12 billion levy on hospitals, doctors and health plans a 'loan, because it ... goes back to health care,' Limbaugh couldn't stop laughing on the air. He said Schwarzenegger's rhetorical spin was no different than former President Bill Clinton calling tax increases 'investments,'" and he points out here I've always been cautious about Schwarzenegger and his conservative credentials.

I know Arnold. I have smoked stogies with Arnold, and I like Arnold! He's an engaging, friendly, nice guy. But that's why I always said, "Folks, when you're in a position, as I am, a national commentator, the one thing you can't do is become friends with these politicians." When you become friends with them, you can't criticize your friends. When they become part of your traveling gang or your inner circle, they are insulated from criticism, and that's not going to help me and that's not what I'm here for, is to make friends with these people.

So this is a sellout, and I'm seeing way too many Republicans do it, and it's not good for conservatism -- which is where my loyalty lies, not with the Republican Party. It just happens to be the Republican Party is the home base of conservatism, but the entire party, of course, is not. I don't know what happened to Arnold.

He obviously didn't have the leadership skills to articulate conservative principles and win over the public as Reagan did, because if he had the leadership skills to articulate conservative principles and win over the public as Reagan did, then he would have stayed conservative, but he felt like he was unable to do that and so in order to get reelected and become popular and be liked and so forth, he broomed conservatism and became a liberal while calling himself a Republican.

Here at the Radio Equalizer, however, we agreed with callers who wondered why Rush was so polite in the face of Arnold's public slam. Even worse, wasn't Limbaugh actually making excuses for the governor's behavior?

Putting these questions directly to Limbaugh himself, your Radio Equalizer got this response:

BRIAN MALONEY: Rush, I heard the show today and read the transcript as well. I think the lingering question some of us have is this: why did you choose to be so polite in the face of Arnold's nastiness?

Do you really believe he needed to be quite so blunt in order to get the press off his back? Aren't there more diplomatic ways to handle this, considering 100% of his GOP base is probably made up of Rush fans?

RUSH LIMBAUGH: Hmmm... What was I supposed to do, start calling him names and attacking him?

I remember in mid- 1994, after the GOP won back the House. I called Clinton irrelevant a number of times. He actually said, in a press conference, "I am not irrelevant," no doubt responding to me without mentioning my name. But it bugged him, as evidenced by his replying to it.

I didn't hit Arnold personally because it is not my style and doing so is too easy. I opted to hit his policies and his betrayal of conservatism. I think that is hitting pretty hard.

All that having been said, you would be mistaken if you don't think I hit back hard. I hit back on his selling out his conservatism, his laughable attempt to to call tax increases for universal health care for kids in California as "loans," and said that "Arnold's wing of the Republican party is not the future of the Republican Party," just as Gerald Ford's wasn't in 1976.

I stood up for conservatism and said I would not allow someone who says they are conservative, but are not, to redefine it. I debunked Arnold's definition of compromise when I called him a sell out.

I have always resisted contrived rivalries as a programming technique. I despise them to this day when I see media hosts initiate them to get attention. That is NOT classy. I also don't interpret what Arnold said as nasty.

I truly believe he was saying I am "irrelevant" because I am not a Californian and because he is tired of having my name thrown at him each time he is on the Today show.

Look, Brian, there is too much of this host vs somebody crap going on out there simply as a programming technique or tool. I don't do it and never have. Besides, everyone takes shots at me. I don't have time to care about the small fry because that crowd is constantly baiting me, but Arnold is an elected governor and so it is a bit different.

But I just view this as the league I play in, where criticism and sniping are the norm. I can take it. Things people say about me which aren't true I ignore, let them bounce off.

And I am not irrelevant, as this episode clearly demonstrates.

BRIAN MALONEY: It's possible that some of us weren't listening carefully enough or missed some of the nuance behind your response. But it also seems this answer clarifies to a greater extent your real goal: fire back in a dignified manner.

RUSH LIMBAUGH: Brevity is the soul of wit. You nailed it with "fire back in a dignified manner."

Thanks to Rush for the interview. In the meantime, regardless of how this ultimately plays out, one thing is clear: this has got to be good for the ratings!

UPDATE: has now posted the transcript of today's interview segment. Initially a polite and cordial exchange, the two became a bit testy toward the end, especially when Rush challenged Arnold over his recent habit of caving into the Democrat Party's demands.

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  • Why can't Republicans allow anyone in their party to think for themselves? Why can't they allow anyone to have a differing viewpoint? Why do they consider people who don't agree 100% with them "traitors"?

    Pardon me if I am wrong, but if Republicans think they are the "party of God" (which, by the way, some have said it before) then shouldn't they respect the fact that God gave us free will? Disrespecting that free will is like spitting in the face of God.

    By Blogger liberal outlaw, at 21 March, 2007 09:53  

  • hmm reading comprehension is not a strong suit for the left side of the aisle. liberal outlaw has just ranted about nothing that was in the article. No where in the article did Brian or Rush call Arnold a "traitor." Unless L.O. considers the label "Democrat" tantamount to being called a "traitor."

    By Blogger Qob, at 21 March, 2007 10:36  

  • Rush is a class act and handled this in his typically brilliant manner. He didn't even have to untie the other half of his brain to terminate the governator.

    By Blogger rich glasgow, at 21 March, 2007 11:05  

  • which would have been difficult anyway
    seeing that the laces themselves
    are soaked with hillbilly heroin

    they called elvis a class act, too

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 21 March, 2007 11:16  

  • liberal outlaw,

    Joe Lieberman loves the irony of your statement. Make sure to forward it to Jane Hamsher, the dailykos and Ned Lamont, along with pretty much all of the Democratic leadership. You guys are too funny, sometimes.

    By Blogger Ricky West, at 21 March, 2007 11:18  

  • The irony of someone called "hashfanatic" calling on Rush's self admitted addiction problem speaks for itself.

    By Blogger Bill, at 21 March, 2007 12:05  

  • LO and hash suffere from such severe cases of BDS that they no longer think. They lash out with all the bile and venom they can muster. Maybe Savage is right in that Liberalism is a Mental Illness.

    By Blogger PCD, at 21 March, 2007 12:21  

  • bill

    do you know what the screen name hashfanatic refers to

    are you sure


    die die die
    with festering boils
    in Jesus' name

    you filthy rotten parasite

    nothing personal

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 21 March, 2007 13:11  

  • ricky

    i'm afraid i don't see
    lie-berman disagreeing with
    established neocon platforms
    in any way, shape, or form

    especially one

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 21 March, 2007 13:12  

  • wow - two ass-kisses in two posts...

    O'Reilly must not be answering his phone for Brian anymore.

    By Blogger TJ, at 21 March, 2007 14:57  

  • How fraken annoying is that Doc Martin audio ad Maloney is running?

    By Blogger Elmonica, at 21 March, 2007 16:53  

  • PCD - as per usual, i don't get mean or angry or offensive until i have to respond to you. you see, PCD, you are not an intelligent creature. for that matter, there are no intelligent republicans. not one on this entire planet. if a human being registers as a republican, then that is an admission of retardation. (i'm taking "hate classes" with Coulter and Savage as teachers - it really works!)

    furthermore, PCD, you always accuse me of things that i haven't done. again, this is because you are not intelligent.

    so my dear PCD, here is what i want you to do - go to a bar. i don't care which bar, but if you're like a typical republican then you're a closet homo and you'll probably choose a gay bar. you go girl. anyway, go to said bar and just get plastered. i mean really shit-faced. then, get in your car and just go for a drive. drive all over the place. if you wake up the next morning, repeat this again. when you stop waking up every morning then the mission is accomplished. more power to ya - you waste of skin.

    By Blogger liberal outlaw, at 21 March, 2007 17:17  

  • Qob - I didn't say that they mentioned it in the post, did i? apparently YOU are the one who needs to learn a little reading comprehension.

    but unlike you conservatives, i'll provide evidence - read it and weep.

    By Blogger liberal outlaw, at 21 March, 2007 17:24  

  • Love how Baloney got past Rush's 3rd hemmoroid in order to plant his juciest kiss, saying surely 100% of Arnold's base listens to Rush. Man does this tell you what kinda clueless trickster freak we are dealin with here? To claim that a lying lardass drug addict, who repeatedly sent his maid with a shoebox full of cash to the Dennys on Belvedere Rd. to score drugs, is the one unifying voice of all GOPdumb really says it all.

    By Blogger gregrocker, at 21 March, 2007 20:22  

  • By the way, it's been 3 weeks and we still haven't had any of the items on the GOP Hall of Fame below disputed (except for the waddler who posted a short rebuttal list about Clinton, none of which could be Googled any further than Free Republic):

    Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

    Mark Pazuhanich Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

    Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

    Edison Misla Aldarondo Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for attempted rape of a juvenile.

    Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.

    Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.

    Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old which produced a child.

    Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a juvenile.

    Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

    Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

    Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

    Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a minor and sentenced to one month in jail.

    Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges.

    Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

    Republican activist Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child.

    Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a minor working as a congressional page.

    Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.

    Republican governor Arnold Schwarzenegger had sex with a 16 year old when he was 28.

    Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

    Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

    Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with a juvenile and one count of delivering the drug LSD.

    Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.

    Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

    Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was arrested after allegedly offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

    Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.

    Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

    Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

    Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.

    Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.

    Keith Westmoreland - Tennessee official Republican politician Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to minors under 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children). Committed suicide.

    Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was chargedKeola Childs with sexual misconduct involving a 15-year old girl.

    Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a child.

    Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.

    Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.

    Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.

    Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

    Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.

    Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.

    Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.

    Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.

    Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was charged with rape for allegedly paying a 15-year old girl for sex. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.

    Matthew GlavinRepublican Party Chairman Sam Walls, who is married, was urged to drop his candidacy for Congress when it was found he likes to dress up in women's clothing

    Republican activist Matthew Glavin, who Edward Schrockpreached family values, was caught masturbating in public and fondling an undercover park ranger

    Republican Congressman and family values advocate Edward Schrock resigned from Congress after he was caught seeking sex on adult telephone lines for homosexuals

    Republican Congressman Bob Livingston was about to vote for impeaching President Clinton for sexual improprieties until it was disclosed he was an adulterer

    Republican Congressman Henry Hyde denounced President Clinton's extramarital affair until his own marital infidelities were revealed

    By Blogger gregrocker, at 21 March, 2007 20:27  

  • Rich called Rush brilliant!! This clow n is impressed with this drug addled freak of nature. I wonder if Rich droppe out of kindergarten

    This blog is seriously pathetic, the right in general is pathetic. Hackery at its finest. I wonder if Maloney had to cop some oxy to get the interview

    By Blogger Minister of Propaganda, at 21 March, 2007 22:07  

  • "I wonder if Maloney had to cop some oxy to get the interview "

    I usually decry most of MoPs rants, but that line is downright appropriate and bloody FUNNY!

    Nice one, MoP :)

    how appropriate tat my "word verification" below contains "lol"

    By Blogger TJ, at 21 March, 2007 23:53  

  • It's typical how the libs have come out spewing vindictive hate at-more so than normal-when Rush Limbaugh is discussed.

    I't also interesting that there isn't a single liberal pundit that conservatives get all upset about. And it's not that they aren't out there spewing lies and hate. They're there; conservatives just don't get bent out of shape like the far left does.

    Greg-*yawn*. And conservatives could put out a list like that of Democrats, too. It doesn't prove your point-only that you can't win debates so you have to generalize and accuse.

    I know you libs have lost the argument when you begin and end with personal attacks. You think it is cute and effective. It's not. It simply shows how juvenile and immature you are.

    By Blogger Linn, at 22 March, 2007 00:09  

  • oh, really, linn


    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 22 March, 2007 00:13  

  • Linn - apparently you've forgotten about your hate-filled brethren, such as Coulter, Hannity, Savage, Malkin...the list could go on forever.

    But anyway, check out this article. it is very informative, and talks about how the GOP is falling apart, and this Limbaugh "you can't cross party lines" thing is just the start.

    Oh, and while you're busy reading that, we'll go ahead and be taking out the remainder of your republican administration. We've already gotten rid of Libby, Abramoff, Ney, Cunningham, DeLay, Ralph Reed, Ted Haggard - be prepared to add Rove, Gonzalez, and Miers to that list, as well.

    Remember - only the guilty hide. if Rove and Gonzalez had nothing to hide, Bush wouldn't be fighting so desperately to keep them from having to go under oath. get it?

    By Blogger liberal outlaw, at 22 March, 2007 09:32  

  • LO, You ara such a hate filled clown. You are almost up to hash with the hate shtick. All I have to do is stand up to you clowns and watch you all vaporlock.

    I have always wondered why the supposedly tolerant liberals always go to gay slurs when spewing their personal attacks. Do they have peoblems homosexually or what?

    Now you libs, if you think Hiding=Guilt, then the Clintons and their administaration are very guilty from Bill and Hillary down. There wasn't one subpowna or judicial demand that they complied with promptly and fully without filing a shitstorm of legal paper.

    So, in the interest of open government and honesty, lets call the major Clinton Administration members including Bill and Hill in court, under oath, on C-Span, taking lie detector tests. The indictments of them ought to clog the courts for decades.

    By Blogger PCD, at 22 March, 2007 10:01  

  • actually, fudgie
    you're the one
    who has problems deciding
    on whether to be cheerleader
    or quarterback

    so stop projecting
    your sweaty foley fantasies
    for you are a different species
    than the rest of the human race
    stick to your sheepele

    and the clinton days are over
    but the bush crime family's
    hard times have only just begun

    we've only just begun
    to live

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 22 March, 2007 11:23  

  • I't also interesting that there isn't a single liberal pundit that conservatives get all upset about. And it's not that they aren't out there spewing lies and hate. They're there; conservatives just don't get bent out of shape like the far left does.

    CRAP. Pure Hackery to the highest degree. The whole creed of the right wing pundit is "liberals are the enemy within", "liberals hate America" "liberals hate the troops", "liberals support the terrorist".

    Liberals on the other hand attack right wing pundits, who deserve it. Right wing pundits spread hate and come close to promoting violence against "liberals". Liberals puncture holes in right wing ideology, and mock pathetic hate mongers you call "brilliant pundits"

    Nobody on the left is calling "conservatives the enemy" etc. etc. I on the other hand DO THIS, because I feel you low life dividing hate mongers deserve it.

    Without the hate against "liberals" there would be no right wing media.

    and you little sissies cry like babies when your icon, the drug addled high school drop-out gets picked on. Maybe if he did not attack us "liberals" as the enemy for the last 14 years, we would ignore him.

    You guys thrive on hate. Any hate on the left is a reaction to the rights disgusting, divisive and hatefull rhetoric.
    When it happens toy you, you cry like little babies. "waaaa liberal hate", nothing more pathetic.
    YOU started, people like me will finish. AAR does not have the guts to fight hate with hate, I do not care. Every aspersion you cast towerds the left, I will cast onto the right.

    cons never try to attack the ideology of liberals, instead they use ad-hom attacks and hate.

    You guys suck, America is sick of you , the right is falling apart. America vomits at the thought of Republicans

    By Blogger Minister of Propaganda, at 22 March, 2007 12:16  

  • . There wasn't one subpowna or judicial demand that they complied with promptly and fully without filing a shitstorm of legal paper.


    BTW: Clinton's campaign advisor was suponaed just like Karl Rove is. On the "liberal media", they are saying this is unheard of!!! PURE HACKERY, ABSOLUTE LIES AND HACKERY. Cris Matthews said it (not a liberal, a filthy right wing hack disguised as a moderate). LIES

    Carter's advisor was under oath as well as Clinton's.

    Complict right wing media is saying this is "unheard of". Do not ever tell me there is a "liberal" media, this filthy media tries to downplay the implications of Gonzo Gate every single day. Making the idea of staff members going under oath "unheard of" is a big example of how they do this.

    PCD, I smash your trash every time I come on here. You dumb, worthless HACK.

    By Blogger Minister of Propaganda, at 22 March, 2007 12:21  

  • MoP - you had me with the one-liner before, but you lost me on this one:

    "Nobody on the left is calling "conservatives the enemy" etc. etc."

    I may concede that I don't have ample evidence of anyone on the left saying that exact line, but I have read Dean's comments in a speech that he hates republicans and everything for which they stand.

    Randi Rhodes stretches into hyperbole as well.

    The difference between the right and the left currently is that the right holds the crown of turning partisan hatred into their main schtick.

    Mind you - I'm referring only to media, not liberals or conservatives or politicians, but the media.

    By Blogger TJ, at 22 March, 2007 14:20  

  • PCD - you are absolutely braindead. "all i have to do is stand up to you and you go into vaporlock." really? is that why we always respond to you? is that why we always get the last word. also - I've noticed that you didn't answer any of my questions, you just tried to point the finger back at Clinton. guess what? i'm not Clinton, and i wasn't in Congress to issue him a subpoena. the republicans were in the majority and they could have done it. Clinton never came out and said "my cabinet will not go under oath and i will not allow transcipts to be taken." Bush did because they are hiding. address that before you switch things around.

    And just a reminder to all you morons who keep trying to bring Clinton into every argument - CLINTON IS NOT IN OFFICE. HE HAS BEEN GONE FOR OVER 6 YEARS. MOVE ON!

    if you are angry that Clinton didn't get into more trouble, then blame the Republican Congress that was in power during his term. the Democrats in Congress now aren't going to let shit slide anymore, and you have to deal with that.

    By Blogger liberal outlaw, at 22 March, 2007 14:49  

  • MoPoop,

    In your dreams!

    The only thing you do is demonstrate how deranged the Left in this country is.

    By Blogger PCD, at 22 March, 2007 14:50  

  • "And conservatives could put out a list like that of Democrats, too. It doesn't prove your point-only that you can't win debates so you have to generalize and accuse..."

    OK Lardass. Let's see your list. You pasty 700 pounders couldn't come up with one 3 weeks ago, so you trotted out all the Clinton lies which won't Google past right wingnut sites. So let's see a list that will Google to news stories about actual criminal convictions like everyone on the GOP list does.

    You can't. Doubt you can even find one. So shut the fuck up, you bloated liars!

    By Blogger gregrocker, at 22 March, 2007 22:45  

  • question for the neocon gallery

    schwarzenegger's positions pretty well
    parallel those of giuliani's

    how would electing a con like giuliani
    benefit your everyday life
    so much more than an evil lib

    like let's say, hillary

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 24 March, 2007 00:24  


    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 31 December, 2007 14:45  

  • First 'liberal owtlaw' posts this " Why can't Republicans allow anyone in their party to think for themselves? Why can't they allow anyone to have a differing viewpoint? Why do they consider people who don't agree 100% with them "traitors"?".... then in a later comment posts this link : which brings up the site "Living on earth, the liberal republican". Seems we are now at an impasse.... or does 'liberal owtlaw' mean the republicans of the site in the initial comment? As is typical of the left, liberal outlaw assumes itself the smartest in the room without doing any real leg work.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11 December, 2008 13:52  

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