The Radio Equalizer: Brian Maloney

28 September 2007

Rush Limbaugh Troops Controversy, Media Matters, Bill O'Reilly

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Mainstream Media's Smear Train Chugs Along






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Not content to wait until Bill O'Reilly's hoped- for demise, the George Soros- funded Media Matters / mainstream media smear machine has added a second target: Rush Limbaugh.

And this time, the distortion of words may actually be more severe than in O'Reilly's case.

Now, Media Matters has twisted and edited Rush's words in a way that makes it appear he's insulting the troops. They've taken the false idea that he called anti- war soldiers "phony troops" and spread it across the Internet. Even the White House fell for it. But Limbaugh said nothing of the sort.

Kicking off Friday's show, Rush re-ran the broadcast in question, in addition to airing audio clips of Democrats denouncing him from the floor of Congress yesterday evening. Some falsely accused him of "bashing soldiers". Further turning the tables, the talk titan ran excerpts of lefty politicians attacking Iraq proponents.


Moments ago, Rush had the show segment placed on YouTube:





From The Hill, here's Senator John Kerry (D-MA) dishonestly blasting Rush:


Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) on Thursday demanded an apology from conservative talk radio host Rush Limbaugh, who called soldiers who oppose the Iraq war “phony.”

“This disgusting attack from Rush Limbaugh, cheerleader for the chicken-hawk wing of the far right, is an insult to American troops,” Kerry said. “Mr. Limbaugh owes an apology to everyone who has ever worn the uniform of our country, and an apology to the families of every soldier buried in Arlington National Cemetery.”

Speaking on Wednesday with a listener who said he used to be in the Army, Limbaugh described veterans who call for withdrawal of troops from Iraq as “phony soldiers.”

Limbaugh’s remark prompted criticism from anti-war groups and liberals. Media Matters, a liberal media watchdog, and Americans Against Escalation In Iraq (AAEI), a pressure group of Iraq veterans who oppose the war, lashed out at Limbaugh.


Atlanta's WSB-TV fell for the Media Matters trick hook, line and sinker:


Dems Rip Limbaugh's 'Phony Troops' Comment

Talk Show Host Draws Fire

POSTED: 7:54 am EDT September 28, 2007
UPDATED: 9:53 am EDT September 28, 2007

The war of words over the conflict in Iraq took a new turn Thursday as Democrats in Congress excoriated radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh for calling some soldiers "phony troops."

Limbaugh had argued with a caller on Wednesday about when U.S. troops ought to be brought home. The caller, who identified himself as "Mike" from Chicago and said he was an a Iraq veteran and a Republican, pushed Limbaugh on whether the occupation in Iraq would last forever.

Limbaugh and his next caller, who also said he was in the military, both referred to soldiers who criticize the war and urge that troops be brought home as "phony troops."

The exchange came a week after the Senate passed a resolution condemning the anti-war group MoveOn for an ad in the New York Times that asked whether Gen. David Petraeus, in testimony before Congress, would be "General Betray-us." The House passed a similar resolution this week.

Rep. Patrick Murphy, D-Pa., an Iraq veteran critical of the war, scolded Limbaugh in a Thursday column on the HuffingtonPost.com Web site.

"When someone like Rush Limbaugh says that soldiers who disagree with the failed strategies of President Bush, Vice President Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld are 'phony soldiers,' you have to consider the source," he wrote.

"Rush Limbaugh, who, in January, called Vietnam veteran Sen. Chuck Hagel, R-Neb., 'Senator Betrayus' for disagreeing with President Bush, has made no secret of his disdain for those who serve and speak out. Where was Rush Limbaugh when it came time to serve his country?"

Limbaugh has not served in the military. He has been a vocal supporter of the war in Iraq.


Limbaugh's best point is this (Bill O'Reilly, take note): critics of conservative talk radio, especially in the mainstream media, never actually listen to these shows. They simply accept the Media Matters spin as gospel without actually tuning in. O'Reilly and Limbaugh cannot emphasize this point enough.

Limbaugh was actually talking about the story of Jesse MacBeth, a fake "soldier" who never made it out of boot camp, yet was utilized by the anti- war left as a "veteran" who agreed with Iraq opponents.

But that didn't stop Salon.com from going along with this sleazy scheme:


Rush Limbaugh and the "phony soldiers"

So Rush Limbaugh says there are two kinds of soldiers serving in the U.S. military in Iraq -- real soldiers who think the United States ought to keep fighting there and "phony soldiers" who think the United States ought to start making plans to leave.

Media Matters has the obvious rejoinder: The seven men who wrote "The War as We Saw It" must have been "phony soldiers," right?

Memo to Rush: Try telling that to the "phony mothers," "phony fathers," "phony wives" and "phony kids" of those men, two of whom were killed in Iraq this month.

Memo to John Cornyn and 71 other U.S. senators: Where's the resolution condemning Rush?


See Michelle Malkin's site for background on the Jesse MacBeth story. Also, the Weekly Standard does a good job tearing apart their fabrications here. Outside the Beltway joins in here with the truth. Here's the latest coverage round-up from Memeorandum.


The big question: why has a smear site like Media Matters become a trusted source for the mainstream media? Hello, CNN?

Let's take a look at their latest sleazy behavior, including their version of events:


Limbaugh: Service members who support U.S. withdrawal are "phony soldiers"


During the September 26 broadcast of his nationally syndicated radio show, Rush Limbaugh called service members who advocate U.S. withdrawal from Iraq "phony soldiers." He made the comment while discussing with a caller a conversation he had with a previous caller, "Mike from Chicago," who said he "used to be military," and "believe[s] that we should pull out of Iraq." Limbaugh told the second caller, whom he identified as "Mike, this one from Olympia, Washington," that "[t]here's a lot" that people who favor U.S. withdrawal "don't understand" and that when asked why the United States should pull out, their only answer is, " 'Well, we just gotta bring the troops home.' ...

'Save the -- keeps the troops safe' or whatever," adding, "[I]t's not possible, intellectually, to follow these people." "Mike" from Olympia replied, "No, it's not, and what's really funny is, they never talk to real soldiers. They like to pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and talk to the media." Limbaugh interjected, "The phony soldiers." The caller, who had earlier said, "I am a serving American military, in the Army," agreed, replying, "The phony soldiers."

[...]

On September 12, The New York Times noted: "Two of the soldiers who wrote of their pessimism about the war in an Op-Ed article that appeared in The New York Times on Aug. 19 were killed in Baghdad on Monday."

As Media Matters for America has documented, Limbaugh denounced as "contemptible" and "indecent" MoveOn.org's much-discussed advertisement -- titled "General Petraeus or General Betray Us?" -- critical of Gen. David Petraeus, but has repeatedly attacked the patriotism of those with whom he disagrees. For instance, on the January 25 broadcast of his radio show, he told his audience that he had a new name for Sen. Chuck Hagel (R-NE), a Vietnam veteran: "Senator Betrayus." A day earlier, Hagel had sided with Democrats on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in voting to approve a nonbinding resolution declaring that President Bush's escalation in Iraq was against "the national interest." Additionally, on August 21, 2006, Limbaugh said: "I want to respectfully disagree with the president on the last part of what he said. I am going to challenge the patriotism of people who disagree with him because the people that disagree with him want to lose."

As Media Matters has also documented, on the August 2, 2005, program, Limbaugh repeatedly referred to Iraq war veteran and then-Democratic congressional candidate Paul Hackett as "another liberal Democrat trying to hide behind a military uniform" and accused him of going to Iraq "to pad the resumé." On the day of Limbaugh's comments, Hackett narrowly lost a special election to Republican Jean Schmidt for Ohio's 2nd Congressional District seat.

From the September 26 broadcast of Premiere Radio Networks' The Rush Limbaugh Show:


LIMBAUGH: Mike in Chicago, welcome to the EIB Network. Hello.

CALLER 1: Hi Rush, how you doing today?

LIMBAUGH: I'm fine sir, thank you.

CALLER 1: Good. Why is it that you always just accuse the Democrats of being against the war and suggest that there are absolutely no Republicans that could possibly be against the war?

LIMBAUGH: Well, who are these Republicans? I can think of Chuck Hagel, and I can think of Gordon Smith, two Republican senators, but they don't want to lose the war like the Democrats do. I can't think of -- who are the Republicans in the anti-war movement?

CALLER 1: I'm just -- I'm not talking about the senators. I'm talking about the general public -- like you accuse the public of all the Democrats of being, you know, wanting to lose, but --

LIMBAUGH: Oh, come on! Here we go again. I uttered a truth, and you can't handle it, so you gotta call here and change the subject. How come I'm not also hitting Republicans? I don't know a single Republican or conservative, Mike, who wants to pull out of Iraq in defeat. The Democrats have made the last four years about that specifically.

CALLER 1: Well, I am a Republican, and I've listened to you for a long time, and you're right on a lot of things, but I do believe that we should pull out of Iraq. I don't think it's winnable. And I'm not a Democrat, but I just -- sometimes you've got to cut the losses.

LIMBAUGH: Well, you -- you --

CALLER 1: I mean, sometimes you really gotta know when you're wrong.

LIMBAUGH: Well, yeah, you do. I'm not wrong on this. The worst thing that can happen is losing this, flying out of there, waving the white flag. Do you have --

CALLER 1: Oh, I'm not saying that. I'm not saying anything like that, but, you know --

LIMBAUGH: Well, of course you are.

CALLER 1: No, I'm not.

LIMBAUGH: Bill, the truth is -- the truth is the truth, Mike.

CALLER 1: We did what we were supposed to do, OK. We got rid of Saddam Hussein. We got rid of a lot of the terrorists. Let them run their country --

LIMBAUGH: Oh, good lord! Good lord.

[...]

CALLER 1: How long is it gonna -- how long do you think we're going to have to be there for them to take care of that?

LIMBAUGH: Mike --

CALLER 1: How long -- you know -- what is it?

LIMBAUGH: Mike --

CALLER 1: What is it?

LIMBAUGH: Mike, you can't possibly be a Republican.

CALLER 1: I am.

LIMBAUGH: You are -- you are --

CALLER 1: I am definitely a Republican.

LIMBAUGH: You can't be a Republican. You are --

CALLER 1: Oh, I am definitely a Republican.

LIMBAUGH: You are tarnishing the reputation, 'cause you sound just like a Democrat.

CALLER 1: No, but --

LIMBAUGH: The answer to your question --

CALLER 1: -- seriously, how long do we have to stay there --

LIMBAUGH: As long as it takes!

CALLER 1: -- to win it? How long?

LIMBAUGH: As long as it takes! It is very serious.

CALLER 1: And that is what?

LIMBAUGH: This is the United States of America at war with Islamofascists. We stay as long -- just like your job. You do everything you have to do, whatever it takes to get it done, if you take it seriously.

CALLER 1: So then you say we need to stay there forever --

LIMBAUGH: I -- it won't --

CALLER 1: -- because that's what it'll take.

LIMBAUGH: No, Bill, or Mike -- I'm sorry. I'm confusing you with the guy from Texas.

CALLER 1: See, I -- I've used to be military, OK? And I am a Republican.

LIMBAUGH: Yeah. Yeah.

CALLER 1: And I do live [inaudible] but --

LIMBAUGH: Right. Right. Right, I know.

CALLER 1: -- you know, really -- I want you to be saying how long it's gonna take.

LIMBAUGH: And I, by the way, used to walk on the moon!

CALLER 1: How long do we have to stay there?

LIMBAUGH: You're not listening to what I say. You can't possibly be a Republican. I'm answering every question. That's not what you want to hear, so it's not even penetrating your little wall of armor you've got built up.

[...]

LIMBAUGH: Another Mike, this one in Olympia, Washington. Welcome to the EIB Network. Hello.

CALLER 2: Hi Rush, thanks for taking my call.

LIMBAUGH: You bet.

CALLER 2: I have a retort to Mike in Chicago, because I am a serving American military, in the Army. I've been serving for 14 years, very proudly.

LIMBAUGH: Thank you, sir.

CALLER 2: And, you know, I'm one of the few that joined the Army to serve my country, I'm proud to say, not for the money or anything like that. What I would like to retort to is that, if we pull -- what these people don't understand is if we pull out of Iraq right now, which is about impossible because of all the stuff that's over there, it'd take us at least a year to pull everything back out of Iraq, then Iraq itself would collapse, and we'd have to go right back over there within a year or so. And --

LIMBAUGH: There's a lot more than that that they don't understand. They can't even -- if -- the next guy that calls here, I'm gonna ask him: Why should we pull -- what is the imperative for pulling out? What's in it for the United States to pull out? They can't -- I don't think they have an answer for that other than, "Well, we just gotta bring the troops home."

CALLER 2: Yeah, and, you know what --

LIMBAUGH: "Save the -- keep the troops safe" or whatever. I -- it's not possible, intellectually, to follow these people.

CALLER 2: No, it's not, and what's really funny is, they never talk to real soldiers. They like to pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and talk to the media.

LIMBAUGH: The phony soldiers.

CALLER 2: The phony soldiers. If you talk to a real soldier, they are proud to serve. They want to be over in Iraq. They understand their sacrifice, and they're willing to sacrifice for their country.

LIMBAUGH: They joined to be in Iraq. They joined --

CALLER 2: A lot of them -- the new kids, yeah.

LIMBAUGH: Well, you know where you're going these days, the last four years, if you signed up. The odds are you're going there or Afghanistan or somewhere.

CALLER 2: Exactly, sir.


Now, from Limbaugh's official transcript, here's what really happened on his show, note the section in bold that explains what Rush means by "phony soldiers". That was left out of the Media Matters attack piece seen above:


BEGIN TRANSCRIPT

RUSH: Mike in Chicago, welcome to the EIB Network. Hello.

CALLER: Hi, Rush, how you doing today?

RUSH: Fine, sir, thank you.

CALLER: Good. Why is it that you always just accuse the Democrats of being against the war and that there's actually no Republicans that can possibly be against the war?

RUSH: Well, who are these Republicans? I can think of Chuck Hagel, and I can think of Gordon Smith, two Republican senators, but they don't want to lose the war like the Democrats do. I can't think of who the Republicans are in the anti-war movement.

CALLER: I'm not talking about the senators. I'm talking about the general public. You accuse the public and all the Democrats of being, you know, wanting to lose --

RUSH: Oh, come on, here we go again. I utter the truth, and you can't handle it so you gotta call here and change the subject. How come I'm not also hitting Republicans? I don't know a single Republican or conservative, Mike, who wants to pull out of Iraq in defeat. The Democrats have made the last four years about that specifically.

CALLER: Well, I am a Republican, and I listened to you for a long time, and you're right on a lot of things, but I do believe that we should pull out of Iraq. I don't think it's winnable. I'm not a Democrat, but sometimes you gotta cut the losses. I mean, sometimes you really got to admit you're wrong.

RUSH: Well, yeah, you do. I'm not wrong on this. The worst thing that can happen is losing this, getting out of there, waving the white flag.

CALLER: I'm not saying that, I'm not saying anything like that.

RUSH: Of course you are.

CALLER: No, I'm not!

RUSH: The truth is the truth, Mike.

CALLER: We did what we were supposed to do, okay, we got rid of Saddam Hussein; we got rid of a lot of the terrorists. Let them run their country now. Let's get out of there and let's be done with it. We won it.

RUSH: I'm never going to be able to retire. It's not going to work. You are depressing me.

CALLER: Well, sometimes, like you said, the truth hurts, Rush. Sometimes it hurts.

RUSH: I have explained this so many times. I can't believe that you actually listen to this program a lot, because you've heard me say what I'm going to say to you. War is never "plottable" on a piece of paper or on a map. It never goes exactly as anybody thinks it's going to go because nobody can predict the future, for one thing.

CALLER: That's true.

RUSH: Thank you. So what's happening now is that the very enemy that blew us up on 9/11 is facing us in Iraq. We can't cave in defeat and run out of there and say, "Hey guess what, we won, we got Saddam." We are going to be setting ourselves up for future disasters. We will never be able to have any other nation trust us as an ally when we have to go in there again. If we pull out of there before we take care of this, Mike, we're just going to have to do it sometime later at greater cost.

CALLER: Are we ever going to take care of it, though? How long do you think we're going to have to be there to take care of it?

RUSH: Mike, you can't possibly be a Republican.

CALLER: I am.

RUSH: You can't be Republican.

CALLER: Oh, I am definitely Republican.

RUSH: You sound just like a Democrat.

CALLER: No, but seriously, Rush, how long do we have to stay there?

RUSH: As long as it takes.

CALLER: How long?

RUSH: As long as it takes. It is very serious. This is the United States of America at war with Islamofascists. Just like your job, you do everything you have to do, whatever it takes to get it done, if you take it seriously.

CALLER: So then you say we need to stay there forever?

RUSH: No, Bill -- (Laughing) or Mike. I'm sorry. I'm confusing you with the guy from Texas.

CALLER: I used to be military, okay, and I am a Republican.

RUSH: Yeah.

CALLER: And I do listen to you, but --

RUSH: Right, I know. And I, by the way, used to walk on the moon.

CALLER: How long do we have to stay there?

RUSH: You're not listening to what I say. You can't possibly be a Republican. I'm answering every question; it's not what you want to hear, and so it's not even penetrating your little wall of armor you've got built up. I said we stay to get the job done, as long as it takes. I didn't say forever. Nothing takes forever. That's not possible, Bill. Mike. Whatever. Nobody lives forever, no situation lasts forever, everything ends. We determine how do we want it to end, in our favor or in our defeat? With people like you in charge, who want to put a timeline on everything -- do you ever get anything done in your life? Or do you say, "Well, I wanted to have this done by now, and it's not, so screw it"? You don't live your life that way. Well, hell, you might, I don't know. But the limitations that you want to impose here are senseless, and they, frankly, portray no evidence that you are a Republican.

Another Mike. This one in Olympia, Washington. Welcome to the EIB Network. Hello.

CALLER: Hi, Rush. Thanks for taking my call.

RUSH: You bet.

CALLER: I have a retort to Mike in Chicago, because I am serving in the American military, in the Army. I've been serving for 14 years, very proudly.

RUSH: Thank you, sir.

CALLER: I'm one of the few that joined the Army to serve my country, I'm proud to say, not for the money or anything like that. What I would like to retort to is that, what these people don't understand, is if we pull out of Iraq right now, which is not possible because of all the stuff that's over there, it would take us at least a year to pull everything back out of Iraq, then Iraq itself would collapse and we'd have to go right back over there within a year or so.

RUSH: There's a lot more than that that they don't understand. The next guy that calls here I'm going to ask them, "What is the imperative of pulling out? What's in it for the United States to pull out?" I don't think they have an answer for that other than, "When's he going to bring the troops home? Keep the troops safe," whatever.

CALLER: Yeah.

RUSH: It's not possible intellectually to follow these people.

CALLER: No, it's not. And what's really funny is they never talk to real soldiers. They pull these soldiers that come up out of the blue and spout to the media.

RUSH: The phony soldiers.

CALLER: Phony soldiers. If you talk to any real soldier and they're proud to serve, they want to be over in Iraq, they understand their sacrifice and they're willing to sacrifice for the country.

RUSH: They joined to be in Iraq.

CALLER: A lot of people.

RUSH: You know where you're going these days, the last four years, if you sign up. The odds are you're going there or Afghanistan, or somewhere.

CALLER: Exactly, sir. My other comment, my original comment, was a retort to Jill about the fact we didn't find any weapons of mass destruction. Actually, we have found weapons of mass destruction in chemical agents that terrorists have been using against us for a while now. I've done two tours in Iraq, I just got back in June, and there are many instances of insurgents not knowing what they're using in their IEDs. They're using mustard artillery rounds, VX artillery rounds in their IEDs. Because they didn't know what they were using, they didn't do it right, and so it didn't really hurt anybody. But those munitions are over there. It's a huge desert. If they bury it somewhere, we're never going to find it.

RUSH: Well, that's a moot point for me right now.

CALLER: Right.

RUSH: The weapons of mass destruction. We gotta get beyond that. We're there. We all know they were there, and Mahmoud even admitted it in one of his speeches here talking about Saddam using the poison mustard gas or whatever it is on his own people. But that's moot. What's more important is all this is taking place now in the midst of the surge working, and all of these anti-war Democrats are getting even more hell-bent on pulling out of there, which means that success on the part of you and your colleagues over there is a great threat to them. It's frustrating and maddening, and why they must be kept in the minority. I want to thank you, Mike, for calling. I appreciate it very much.

Here is a Morning Update that we did recently, talking about fake soldiers. This is a story of who the left props up as heroes. They have their celebrities and one of them was Army Ranger Jesse Macbeth. Now, he was a "corporal." I say in quotes. Twenty-three years old. What made Jesse Macbeth a hero to the anti-war crowd wasn't his Purple Heart; it wasn't his being affiliated with post-traumatic stress disorder from tours in Afghanistan and Iraq. No. What made Jesse Macbeth, Army Ranger, a hero to the left was his courage, in their view, off the battlefield, without regard to consequences. He told the world the abuses he had witnessed in Iraq, American soldiers killing unarmed civilians, hundreds of men, women, even children. In one gruesome account, translated into Arabic and spread widely across the Internet, Army Ranger Jesse Macbeth describes the horrors this way: "We would burn their bodies. We would hang their bodies from the rafters in the mosque." Now, recently, Jesse Macbeth, poster boy for the anti-war left, had his day in court. And you know what? He was sentenced to five months in jail and three years probation for falsifying a Department of Veterans Affairs claim and his Army discharge record. He was in the Army. Jesse Macbeth was in the Army, folks, briefly. Forty-four days before he washed out of boot camp. Jesse Macbeth isn't an Army Ranger, never was. He isn't a corporal, never was. He never won the Purple Heart, and he was never in combat to witness the horrors he claimed to have seen. You probably haven't even heard about this. And, if you have, you haven't heard much about it. This doesn't fit the narrative and the template in the Drive-By Media and the Democrat Party as to who is a genuine war hero. Don't look for any retractions, by the way. Not from the anti-war left, the anti-military Drive-By Media, or the Arabic websites that spread Jesse Macbeth's lies about our troops, because the truth for the left is fiction that serves their purpose. They have to lie about such atrocities because they can't find any that fit the template of the way they see the US military. In other words, for the American anti-war left, the greatest inconvenience they face is the truth.

END TRANSCRIPT


Yes, when you see the truth, rather than the Media Matters sleazy edit job, you'll see that Rush was in fact talking about fake soliders like Jesse MacBeth. He was not criticizing bona fide soldiers who serve in Iraq. That's a LIE.

Do you think the left- wing media will admit to their mistake? That congressional Dems will retract their words? Don't hold your breath. This is about bringing down enemies and this crowd firmly believes that the ends justify the means.


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34 Comments:

  • I for one hope the degenerate Anti-American REpublican party over America scum bag, stays on the radio forever, he is destroying the GOP, everytime he opens up his mouth. Pissing on troops who disagree with the war, he called them fake. Of corse the caller, never served and is a fucking liar. The troops don't even know what their mission is. Arming former Sunni terrorists? Thats the mission? They only fightr because their brother's are there. Something the pig who called and the filth monger on the radio, has no clue about

    Your time is up. The radicals holding America hostage are going down, to a less radical Democratic party, who just like the GOP profit from war. Only differnece the DEms dont want to kill the Middle class, by cutting healthcare for children (S-chip).

    The filth can shriek all he wants on the radio. The troops despise Limbaugh, very few listen to his garbage on Armed Forces radio. Your time is up. IF you support the troops, like 70% of this nation and even larger after the Petraus "report" you want them home, instead of partaking in an Imperialistic power grab in the Middle East. Many Dems want a piece of the $$ in the Middle East as well.
    Too bad Rush never bothered defending the cause in Nam, what a piece of trash. I hope he lives long enough to destroy the GOP, like the Federalsits. If the Dems actually put the $$ on real Dems, instead of Clinton Dems, the land slide would be so big, the Repblicans would disappar like the FEDERALISTS. The media is selling Hillary, just like they sold Bush, because her policies are not much different than Bush regarding the perpetual war in the Middle East. This stuff is not hard.

    Maloney, sounds like a 12 year old, so does Limbaugh, but this is what sells, ignorance not REALITY

    Onlt difference BETWEEN Rudy and Hillary? Rudy will turn the military on it's on citizens who speak out. Rudy would love another Kent state. He is a fascist. Rudy would also eliminate any program that assists with healthcare instantly as well. He is a bigger whore to big business than even Clinton herself!

    By Blogger Minister of Propaganda, at 28 September, 2007 14:12  

  • MoP,

    Did you even read the article before you started to insult Rush, his caller, and Brian? Do you have some specially placed source that refutes all the other sources which state that Jesse Macbeth was discharged during basic training? Rush stated very plainly that Jesse Macbeth was what he meant by a "phony soldier", but you didn't even pay attention to that part, from what I can tell by your comment.

    And then from there, you went on a weird tangent with no source (no, the poll you cited months ago didn't say they wanted the nation to shift to the far left) which has nothing whatsoever to do with the topic at hand.

    In any case, I don't agree with Rush all the time...but this so-called controversy is just stupid.

    By Blogger Snowed In, at 28 September, 2007 14:51  

  • The end goal here is to make MediaMatters toxic: let them send out as many press releases as they want, but if no one dares retransmit their smears then they won't matter.

    In order to get there, you go after the retransmitters. Question their journalistic integrity in as public a fashion as possible. Greatly reduce the credibility of one or two of the retransmitters, and you'll send a message to the rest.

    So, find a retransmitter or two and keep asking them why they didn't double-check the story themselves before running it. You can do that through, for instance, commenting sections if they're columnists or reporters that allow comments.

    By Blogger LonewackoDotCom, at 28 September, 2007 15:09  

  • Dear MOP,
    How does one even begin to respond to your nonsensical ramblings? Nothing you state is based in fact. I don't pretend to know everything, or at least not nearly as much as you pretend to know. Like you I have an opinion.
    I'm curious as to whom you are referencing when you say "real Dems". I think I would find it quite entertaining as you seem to loathe everyone. Are they the same "real Dems" that sold the lie that they would bring the troops home in order to energize your Dem bretheren to vote? The same that "lied" by stating multiple times everything that pres Bush supposedly "lied" about ( WMD's in Iraq)...before Bush himself, or the French for goodness sake even said it? The same that voted to send our troops into war ( hey it was the popular thing to do) before they sensed political gain was to be had by reversing their stance after sending our men and women into harms way? I wonder... are they the same that want to increase taxes on my (middle class) earnings to pay for healthcare for 25 year old "children" that you reference "S-chip"? I also wonder how one cuts a healthcare program that does not yet exist. The same Dems who are "pissing on our troops" (see Murtha, the Haditha incident, the troops who he said murdered innocent Iraqis in "cold blood" have been cleared)?
    You are however good at name calling, but that " is not hard" to use your words.
    I do take personal exception to your statement:
    "IF you support the troops, like 70% of this nation and even larger after the Petraus "report" you want them home, instead of partaking in an Imperialistic power grab in the Middle East."
    ( only 70% of Americans support the troops? What's wrong with that number?)
    My nearly 19 year old son will soon be deployed. I can tell you that he knows what his mission is. His "brothers" as you call them actually include you, yes YOU. And my son has pledged to defend your rights, freedoms, and your very life, even if it costs him his own. So should I "support" him as you do? By saying he doesn't know what his mission is?.. by telling him falsely that he's on some imperialistic power grab?
    I have some questions for you. Have you ever pondered or dared to ask a soldier what they consider to be "support"? Have you ever concieved of such a thing as victory through defeat of the enemy rather than ourselves? Are you of the ignorant opinion that if we fold up our tents and bring everyone home that the war will be over? I pray that one day you will realize the threat that we as a country are facing today. I pray that you will one day lean to understand and maybe even respect the sacrifices that have been, and will continue to be made for you by those who you currently hold in contempt.
    For someone who dares to contrast ignorance with reality you seem to be unable to grasp either.

    By Blogger B4B, at 28 September, 2007 18:23  

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    By Blogger punditfight, at 28 September, 2007 19:21  

  • I think Rush needs to make his Daily audio archives available free to the public again. That is the easiest way he can do damage control.

    Rush doesn't have to manage his statements as much someone like O'reilly who is on TV. It's actually silly this whole 'taken out of context' debate as there is a shorthand created when a radio talker is familiar with their audience. But by the same token, do you believe its out of character for Rush to accuse a military caller he disagrees with of being a 'phony'. He's questioned callers on their authenticity before. All pundits do it.

    By Blogger punditfight, at 28 September, 2007 19:24  

  • B4P

    If you find it acceptable parenting to lie to your son about Iraq,you shouldbe ashamed of yourself. Are you igonrant or just a disgusting person? My Ex wife is serving in Iraq, she understood before going in, exactly what the war is all about, yet she serves her country anyway. The war was about privitizing the oil wells in Iraq, if you do not understand this, you are hopeless. I don't mean it as an insult, I'm simply speakig the truth. IF you can't put this all together,the hydro-carbom laws,the Iraqi government refuses topass, the strike by the Iraq oil workers, all things you should know about, but you are not paying attention. This is a business deal, it is all about the privitization of Iraqi oil, that is the benchmark Bush even said it. I'm not telling anyone not to serve, honorable people should indeed serve, ubt they shoulds understand what this war is about. Wake up. They are spitting in your face.
    See, we are NOT leaving anytime soon. Listen to me, and when this happens, you will have an epoche, and realize Im not full of crap when I tell you it is a war for oil. Within 1 year, a Sunni government will take hold of Iraq, the US does not want Iran uniting with Iraq, with the current leadership in Iraq this will happen, thanks to us being there we created this new friendly with Iran government in Iraq. The Sunnis will overthrow the current leadership and instal a dictator similiar to Saddam. We will support the Sunni dictatorship's rise to power, as in case you have not noticed we are arming Sunni insurgents to kill Al Queda. They are also killing Shites, we endorse it. THE US will hope the Sunni leadershiop will give us the keys to the ship, the oil wells, and the legal privitizing of it.

    When you see happen what Im telling you will happen, you will than realize what Iraq was all about.
    Nobody is a "fake soldier" for being AWARE of what is going on, I would say they are a smart soldier, the army protects OUR FREEDOMS, not a failed business deal by a crooked regime.
    WAKE up
    and you do not have to be a "lib" to smell the coffee.

    I don't care if Mcbeth is a phony soldier, what about the retired Genrals, what about Iraq veterans against the war, on top of the over 70% of troops (zogby poll 2006) who want to come out of Iraq......???? REAL SOLDIERS INDEED ARE SPEAKING OUT, the filthy scum bag Limbaugh does not want to talk about them.. Rush is a disgrace to this country, and he supports a dangerous regime, that is destroying the military. In Rush's context he is calling ALL SOLDIERS who disagree with the war "phony' not just Mcbeth. Don't even try it. Sickening to imagine, they have destroyed your ability to think to such a degree you are defending a man who said "soldiers who disagree and who have served are phony soldiers. Over 20 retired generals have retired and are speaking out against the war. They are phony? You know exactly what this filthy pig said, he called them ALL phony, not just Mcbeth.
    Think about who you are defending, a vile, elitist, disgusting drug addled D.J. This is who you defend.

    I hope you did not educate your son, based on the pig man. You should be ashamed of yourself.

    WAKE UP
    Limbaugh has attacked others who indeed are not phony. Paul Hackett, Max Cleland. He called Hackett a "puke" and said he is using his uniform to hide his "liberalism". Limbaigh is filth, you are a half-wit for trusting him. Shame , I'm so upset, your a disgrace man, learn to think

    By Blogger Minister of Propaganda, at 28 September, 2007 20:29  

  • "My nearly 19 year old son will soon be deployed."

    What does it feel like to slaughter your own son, you piece of filth?


    "His "brothers" as you call them actually include you, yes YOU."

    Don't you DARE associate us with your private mercenaries and Republican Guard, who fight on behalf of other principalities and powers, and against the interests of real Americans.


    "Have you ever concieved of such a thing as victory through defeat of the enemy rather than ourselves?"

    "You" are not "we", neocon.

    You are America's enemy.

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 29 September, 2007 00:03  

  • Good grief, how do you respond to the leftists on this blog? Their vitriol and hatred is palpable and yet unbelievable.

    To the father whose son soon deploys, take heart that there are many millions of like-minded
    Americans who hold your son, and the others who wear our uniform voluntarily, in our prayers for their safe return.

    To MoP and other fellow travelers, I can only hope your voices become louder, more crazed and widely broadcast. Your rantings will usher in a cleansing of this political debate because you will marginalize yourselves and all the politicos who pander to your self-destructiveness. The sooner the better so, Bring it on!

    By Blogger Dan, at 29 September, 2007 01:04  

  • This is a prime example of why on 13% of Americans trust the liberal media. Heck, even liberals don't trust liberals. They know they themselves will lie and therefore believes everybody lies. No everybody lies. Every liberal lies.

    By Blogger coffee260, at 29 September, 2007 10:48  

  • poor poor Dan, everything I post is not opinion but fact. The main goal of the "War" was to prititize the state owned oil wells in Iraq, only an un-informed Limbaugh listener does not get it. If you read BBC, you would know it. THe fight in the Iraqi parliment was over the hydro-carbon laws, resulting in the Sunni block quiting the parliment. THe Iraq people want us out, there has been no progress in the masin benchmark : THR HYDRO CARBON LAWS.

    When the Sunni dictatorship rises, as I predicted, will you than DAN, look in the mirror and repeat after me "JARED WAS RIGHT, THE LIBERALS WERE RIGHT". I have said it since 2002, I will continue to say ir, this was a war for privitizing state owned Iraq oil.

    Where did I post hate? Can you not read?? Deal with it Dan, America is done with the GOP, America will vote Dem in 2008, the country is swinging big time to the left, the president vetoing the S-chip health care for kids act, will swing America even furthur left. You are blind Dan. Let's keep it simple, the left supports the troops, the right supports the war. More pundits on the left have served , more representatives from the left have served their country as well. Do your homework.




    The GOP will be destroyed in 2008, the more the GOP fights against ending this war, the worse it will be in 2008. You failed at selling the Petraus report to the American people, after the sale, less Americans are listening to the GOP, You will not get it until, the GOP drops even more seats in senate. America supports the troops, you support the WAR. America hates Limbaugh. Dan thinks I'm spewing hate! Im spewing truth. Y

    I do this because I love America. You post because you love Republicans and the War.

    Jeez, I can not wait until 2008, either can America. Latest Rasmussen polls:

    GOP loses Virginia, GOP loses Arkansas, GOP loses Tenessee!!!

    I dont make it up, I read the polls, I read everything. You listen to a filthy degenrate drug addled freak of nature, who most Americans hate, even Republicans. My few Republicn friends, hate Limbaugh, they feel he ruins the image of a Republican. Dan, you and the ditto-traitors are indeed the irrelevant ones here.

    Again, you support the war, we support the troops. You suport "R", we support "U.S.A".

    Where did I spew hate? I spew facts, and if you consider my anti-Limbagh rhetoric hate, you onlyt prove how warped you are. You take Limbaugh over the troops? You take Limbaugh over your own country?

    You just do not get it. And you do not have to be a liberal to get it.

    What a waste of time, trying to talk sense to indoctrinated idiots, who think being a Republican means supporting a failed occupation for oil, and defending a filthy radio host who has slowly destroyed the GOP.

    The few who read this blog, are the few remaining party over country flunkies. Are you dumb or simply mis-informed?

    Obvioulsly the rest of the dountry is smarter than Dan, and the few party over country Repukes that remain.. Your side spewed hate for years on end, America is sick of it. I speak FACTS, you accuse others of being "fake troops". Your a pimple on the ass of America.

    The "war over country" party is in a lot of trouble. Rasmussen shows defeat for the GOP. Virginia is going BLUE, Arkansas is going BLUE, Tenessee heavilly favors John Edwards for president (the biggest liberal of all the front runners)!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Deal with it, you blind support of this occupation will cost you power for many years. Say hello to 40 years of the GOP being irrelevant.

    Notice how when I post., I say something, cons just accuse others of spewing hate. Keep sucking Limbaugh's cock, you closet case, bathroom con. Now, I spewed an insult, but you know what you deserve it. While others defend the troops, you defend Limbaugh. How pathetic.
    If you pay attention to me posts, you may become a patriot, and start taking notice, you too can become a patriot again.

    Dan: do you support your country, or Limnbaugh? When Limbaugh told the called "you must be a Democrat" because the caller was against the war, Limbaugh turned off another 10,00 Republicans. So in order to be a REpublican, you have to agree with Limbaugh? Pathetic. Limbaugh , sounds like a fool. You are a fool for listening to him. Pathetic.

    By Blogger Minister of Propaganda, at 29 September, 2007 11:52  

  • Coffee

    Is theie excrement in your brain instead of a functioning organ? Liberal media!!!!! A conglomerate media owned by 5 mulkti-national corperations, including General Electric, is a liberal media.

    See what I mean, they are clueless.


    Dan: I highly doubt the poster has a kid in the military. I smell a RNC ditto-sheep lie. "millions" do not buy your lie. Nobody even bought the Petraus report.

    By Blogger Minister of Propaganda, at 29 September, 2007 11:56  

  • This is not the first time the coward Limbaugh who dodged the draft has urinated on veterans who speak the truth. HE CALLED PAUL Hackett a "puke". Hackett served, Limbagh got out of serving because of a cyst on his ass.

    Look what you defend cons. I guess you relate to him, youer cowards, just like him. Hackett served.

    Limbaugh also urinated on Max Cleland. Cleland served, lost his limbs in an accident while serving, the right insults him, inluding that whore Coulter and Limbaugh.

    Funny, my ex-wife, a ideological SOCIALIST, and somoeone who undersatands it is a war for oil, quit law school to serve, and from my time on military bases, bewfore we split up, most soldiers do it, BECAUSE THEY WANT TO SERVE, not because they believe in the Iraq mission. After 9.11 people served to fight terrorism, most enrolling now, are serving because it is an honorable thing to do, not because they are Bush supporters, Limbaugh listeners or anything else.

    Your reality is a false one.


    Most troops would beat the ever loving shit out of Limbauigh for insulting veterans, whether they agree with those vets or not. Trust me, nobody in Iraq, listens to that pig on Armed forces radio. They hate the bastard.

    I indeed spew hate when it comes to filth like Limbaugh. If that slut Coulter can spew hate against our troops, I can spew hate against that filthy, scum, caught with pocklets full of viagra in South America (you all know he was using sex workers in South America, probably underage boys) what a fucking piece of immoral garbage Limbaugh is. I swar If I ever encountered him, I would smash him in the jaw, really hard, and my left fist hurts. I will gladly pay the price. He deserves it. I would do uitr for the troops.

    If you listen to Limbaugh and support hi, you too are ANTI American immoral scum

    By Blogger Minister of Propaganda, at 29 September, 2007 12:20  

  • Excellent article. Let the liberals live out their psychotic delusions. The truth is, they've bitten off more than they can chew and despite their demonic, 24/7 hatred for anything moral and decent in this country, the party of slavery, the party of lynching, the party of the KKK, the party of Jim Crow, the party of black codes, the party of segregation, the party that hates Jews, the party that fought against every piece of civil rights legislation from 1865 to 1965, the party of abortion, the DEMOCRATS are losing this argument.

    By Blogger Lone Ranger, at 29 September, 2007 14:46  

  • Excellent article. Let the liberals live out their psychotic delusions. The truth is, they've bitten off more than they can chew and despite their demonic, 24/7 hatred for anything moral and decent in this country, the party of slavery, the party of lynching, the party of the KKK, the party of Jim Crow, the party of black codes, the party of segregation, the party that hates Jews, the party that fought against every piece of civil rights legislation from 1865 to 1965, the party of abortion, the DEMOCRATS are losing this argument.

    By Blogger Lone Ranger, at 29 September, 2007 14:47  

  • Lone Ranger

    Shove it, the DEms are the party of slavery?? Are you talking about 60 years ago, before the parties changed, Dixie Democrats? They all became Republicans! THE CURRENT GOP has a lot more in common with the Federalists thasn the current Dems have in common with the Southern Democrats in the 1940's. IT is not going to work with anyone who reads, your rhetoric may work with Limbaugh listeners

    Seems to me the GOP is the party CURRENTLY that fights against anything moral or decent, such as healthcare for Middle income children. 150 Republicans in congress voted against the measure, sounds like the good ole' Federalist party, leadership for the elite and by the elite
    Loge Ranger, may you fall of your horse and get trampled.
    Limbaugh , 4 times divorced, stint in rehab under his belt and caught with pockets full of viagra, without a girlfriend in South America represents decency? Bob ALlan of Floridia offering oral sex to a cop for $20 in a men's room, represents decency? Larry CRAIG REPRESENTS DECENCY. An administration willing to scare you into shredding the bill of rights, decency? Blackwater? Decency? Gitmo. Decency? Slashing of veterans benefits. Decency? Tom Delay?? Decency???????? $700 billion for a war, while denying children health care? DECENCY?????????? Secret spying wiretapping? Suspension of Habus Corpus??? DECENCY???????
    I could go on and on, put Maloney will run out of web space...

    Can you pass to me, whtever you are smoking, Lone Ranger.



    The only thing the GOP is goood at is exploiting America's religious beliefs for votes, dividing America over queers robbing the treasury blind and minipulating the media.

    Lone Ranger, do you have knee problems? Your wholoe political belief system is based on knee kerk reactions to everything. Hence, you are a ditto head.

    By Blogger Minister of Propaganda, at 29 September, 2007 18:42  

  • Still not one knee jerker can prove me wrong on my claims to why we are in Iraq. All you flunkies can do is claim I "hate", well it's true I hate the GOP,

    By Blogger Minister of Propaganda, at 29 September, 2007 18:44  

  • Wow, that's some post!

    I blogged on the whole thing as well, which is just a scam by the left to distract attention away from the MoveOn debacle and hard-left defeatism.

    Burkean Reflections

    By Blogger Donald Douglas, at 29 September, 2007 21:43  

  • B4B
    You can’t argue with these idiots. They repeat crap from air head America and call it facts. If you look at the amount of their post its easy to see they are losers with out a life. I find them so ignorant it’s funny. MOP is always talking about facts. I believe in school he failed to know the difference between fact and opinion. Hash is so screwed up from smoking hash. He can’t tell the difference between reality and fantasy.

    So all in all they are losers. Unlike them this is my opinion but most likely fact.

    By Blogger pf1, at 30 September, 2007 01:39  

  • Mop prime example of the give me generation your to much of a loser to buy your own healthcare. No wonder your wife/fiancée left you. Question MOP was she your ex wife or fiancée? Keep your stories straight.

    I have an idea if you are a loser don’t have kids until YOU can support them.

    MOP if you are so confident you know how military personnel feel head to the closest NCO club and tell them your views. See how that works out for you. When you come back and say they agree with your views about the war I’ll know again you’re a liar. Take HASH with you they’ll love him.

    By Blogger pf1, at 30 September, 2007 07:08  

  • He can't. The Blackwater scumbags took over the club for themselves...

    Now, go bathe in gasoline.

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 30 September, 2007 10:02  

  • Hash get your head back under MOP's desk before he slaps you.

    By Blogger pf1, at 01 October, 2007 00:47  

  • Mr. Limbaugh finished telling some guy that he can't be a real Republican if he wants out of Iraq.

    I heard it for myself, Rush said that soldiers that want America out of Iraq are "Phony Soldiers".

    Wow, what kind of America does the Right want?

    Pretty spooky stuff this creeping American fascism

    I heard it with my ears... thanks.

    By Blogger davemartin, at 01 October, 2007 03:25  

  • I came to this page from a Google search.

    Holy cow, I just read the entire thread!

    Thank you, Minister of Propaganda for trying to reach any of the sane left out there!

    I am so pleased that you have a blog... bookmarked.

    You've obviously spent some time thinking over things, how very refreshing!

    Thank you for your fight against this creeping American Fascism that we have to suffer through right now.

    A 200yr old country is not very old if you know what I mean.

    By Blogger davemartin, at 01 October, 2007 03:52  

  • *SIGH* This message board is like a microcosm of the current state of politics in this country. On both sides of the political spectrum there are ignorant jerks like Jared(the so called minister of propaganda with the English writing skills of a second grader) I can't help but loose a little bit of hope for America every time I cruise the message boards of sites like moveon.org or free republic. The amount of partisan hatred is just disgusting. Am I the only one left in the states that knows some republicans AND democrats who are incredibly intelligent and honorable? Am I the only person in America who loves San Fransisco AND Texas for all the unique places and people they respectively have to offer? These days the second I hear someone say, "those liberals are so ________," or "those cons are totally _______," I just stop taking them seriously. It makes me think about a certain type of person I meet when traveling overseas. It isn't too frequently, but from time to time I encounter people who hate Americans.As ignorant as I think they are, I can only assume they would feel right at home IN America- where its common knowledge that every single member of a group you dislikes is ignorant and evil. Just my .02 and in closing I want to thank all those troops serving for this great country- my heart, my hopes, my prayers go out to each one of you. And as for those of you who paint every single person of the opposite political persuasion as ignorant or evil, be they democrat or republican, well, you should be pretty damned ashamed with yourselves as far as I am concerned.

    By Blogger Rich, at 01 October, 2007 03:54  

  • PF1 said
    Mop prime example of the give me generation your to much of a loser to buy your own healthcare.


    I ask, why do you hate Middle Class children? You are suh a degenrate you turned my point about the S-Ship program, which is a bout Middle inclome children into an attack on me. You selfish creep. Many working families can't afforf health care, but you I suppose want them all to die. You see Rich, why I hate these freaks.

    You dare insult me Rich? I'm an "asshole"? I say what most Americans are thinking. I sense your afraid to attack the right, so you lump me in with the right. How dare you, I deal in facts, not knee jerk reactionary bullshit, such as PF1. PF1 actually would kill the S-Chip program, because he is a knee jerk buffon afraid of "socialism taking over" because of health care. The rest of the free world is moving this direction, and Cananda, Italy, England, France, and others all have these programs, and none of them are turning socialist. As a matter of fact their currency is woryh more than ours. So much for that regressive, moon bat far right "commic panic"

    Dave Martin, of course a sane American, understands and respects my posts, because he is not married to a failed ideology.

    All Rich can do is attack my spelling, which is 95% due to typos and the slow computer I posted from all weekend. Ignore the substance, attack the typos.

    still not a single knee jerk reactionary right wing fool can debunk my claims about the Iqaqi war.
    The more you insult me, the more correct I happen to be.

    and if you defend limbaugh, it refelects on the type of pewrson you are, an ignorant, knee-jerk, party over country selfish worm

    My feelings towards the right are not knee jerk . After following policy making and punditry for over 15 years, I developed a deep hatred for the far right, indeed they are enemies of this country, enemies of free thought, enemies of reality

    in 25 years of right wing dominance in the media, they are still on the "red scare"

    The Republican party has 2 symbols, the elephant, and a fat old white guy, afraid of change.

    By Blogger Minister of Propaganda, at 01 October, 2007 10:19  

  • Brian, I am new here. If I may ask a general question: does MoP regularly post here? Most Blogs would consider him a troll. Perhaps he is your pet troll?

    Thank you for actually doing what neither the msm nor Rush would do, that being post the entire transcript. It is pretty clear that Rush was impugning the callers status as a Republican. But it takes a very fine toothed comb and a predisposition to see a given opinion, to assume that Rush was maligning all servicemen. Even a casual listener to the show, (yes, it is a for profit entertainment venture) knows that the on air persona of Rush Limbaugh etc. etc. is an enormous supporter of servicemen and women around the world.

    By Blogger jbbieker, at 01 October, 2007 16:08  

  • Ronald Reagan was a thespian, so there.

    By Blogger U NO HOO, at 01 October, 2007 18:16  

  • Well, as usual, some bloated couch potato is ranting on about the war, the troops blah, blah , blah.

    Well Mr Maloney you seem of age, why don't you take your All-American-troop-supporting ass down to the recruiter's station and sign up for a tour. I mean if you REALLY support troops it's kinda' your duty as an American isn't it?

    Me? I did my time, 4 years USMC, Beirut and Grenada under Reagan. And as a vet I think guys like you should put their money where there mouth is. Either sign up or shut up.

    You aren't supporting any troops sitting on your fat pimply ass eating cheeto's listening to the radio my friend, you're only taking advantage of what we've done for you.

    I'll listen to crap from guys who did their time, but not from military age weasels who won't do their part, especially now when the military needs as many people as it can get.

    By Blogger chris, at 01 October, 2007 23:52  

  • Mop middle income Americans ARE able to afford healthcare coverage.

    Turn off the cable. cell phones, drive a cheaper car, stop eating out. There are a hundred things middle income Americans could do to provide healthcare for their kids if they wanted to. But instead they want the government to pay their way. Hence the “Give me generation”.


    Is this not true. Is this not a fact. Tell me why they can not afford healthcare coverage. These people are 300% above the poverty line.

    If parents are more concerned with keeping up with the Jones instead of taking care of their kids they are a sorry excuse for parents.

    Please MOP tell me why I am wrong on this.

    By Blogger pf1, at 02 October, 2007 01:16  

  • In the old days, the Democrats could cook up the lie, send off the faxes to the parrot media and the lies would be spread nationwide. Today, it simply doesn't work anymore. The Democrats forgot to look in on their parrot, it's now sitting in the rocking chair wheezing badly, near death.

    You have to wonder, where the lies end with Democrats.

    Raise taxes, fund socialism and gun control. Democrats, not hard to understand at all.

    By Blogger 10ksnooker, at 03 October, 2007 07:37  

  • Brian, I am new here. If I may ask a general question: does MoP regularly post here? Most Blogs would consider him a troll. Perhaps he is your pet troll?


    Miniprop and Hashfanatic (who claims to be upset when people aka "cons" think his nickname refers to dope) are probably the two most frequent leftist commenters here. Miniprop often uses numbers in his rants, especially percentages (2%, 70%, 1000%) but they usually are not based on any facts, apparently used to make him sound authoritative.

    Every so often Brian asks people to tone down the obscenities, but that is to prevent the blog from being blocked. The leftists usually quiet down for a while, then switch to the substitutions (A$$) then revert back to the "real words" as happened today.

    By Blogger Missouri Show Me, at 03 October, 2007 18:29  

  • Dearest MOP ( and like-minded individuals),
    I thank you for educating me. You and yours have indeed showed the rest of us who, and what you are. You are indeed a hateful person. You are blinded by your hate. You are the definition of dichotomy. You struggle between what you know and what you'd like to believe. You will say anything, no matter how insane, if you think it has even a slim chance of advancing your agenda. You, and those like you say the most hateful things to, and about people that you do not know, merely for voicing an opinion. I've been called a piece of filth, accused of "slaughtering" my own son and worse ( since removed?). What have I said to warrant such a response? I guess we can forget the free exchange of ideas. The only opinion you want to hear is your own. You are so very closed minded, and a hypocrite. You are what I consider to be functionally insane. The best way to respond to your aptly named "propaganda" is with some sanity, and perhaps a touch of humor. I'll leave you with a quote that I think hits the mark.
    MOP, "...what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
    ( from the Principal, in Billy Madison)

    By Blogger B4B, at 06 October, 2007 17:02  

  • I agree with coffee260,!!!!!!!!!!

    By Anonymous Jay, at 06 June, 2008 18:50  

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