The Radio Equalizer: Brian Maloney

13 September 2006

Air America Radio Bankruptcy, Sale Possible

BANKRUPT?

Air America Out Of Ca$h, Up For Sale




*** This story has been updated: click here ***


Cash- starved Air America Radio is broke and up for sale, the Radio Equalizer has learned exclusively.

In addition, a liberal website is reporting that the so- called "progressive" radio network will announce a bankruptcy filing on Friday. As of this moment, the story has yet to be verified.

What our own sources are telling the Radio Equalizer is that two potential buyers have recently been looking to scoop up Air America's assets. But internal board squabbling has created a disunited front, with some members looking to hand the network back to eccentric co- founder (and Huffington Post contributor) Sheldon Drobny, while the rest shop for buyers.

Jon Sinton, a former Air America and Clear Channel Radio executive, is said to be leading the effort to seek a purchaser.

Drobny, meanwhile, has been scrambling to figure out a way to retake the network and intends to rehire former COO Carl Ginsburg if he is successful.


To Radio Equalizer readers as well as Air America staffers, none of this should come as any surprise. Big layoffs came earlier this week and insiders have been bracing for the worst possible news.

Recently, we had reported on a number of management departures and the fact that Air America could no longer afford to pay the Associated Press for wire service coverage. Plus, the Gloria Wise scandal has still not been resolved.


In addition, this indication of Air America's financial condition allows Al Franken to trigger a clause in his contract that would allow him to immediately depart the network if he so chooses. He first must request a financial statement, however.


If Air America isn't able to continue its programming, it opens the door for new feminist talk radio network GreenStone Media to take over some, or perhaps many, of its stations. As we've reported exclusively, GreenStone, founded by Jane Fonda and Gloria Steinem, has gradually begun to take over Air America's physical operations in New York City.


Because readers are telling us they've been having trouble getting to the Think Progress report on Air America's possible bankruptcy, here's an excerpt:


EXCLUSIVE: Air America To Declare Bankruptcy, But Progressive Radio Remains Strong

Air America Radio will announce a major restructuring on Friday, which is expected to include a bankruptcy filing, three independent sources have told ThinkProgress.

Air America could remain on the air under the deal, but significant personnel changes are already in the works. Sources say five Air America employees were laid off yesterday and were told there would be no severance without capital infusion or bankruptcy. Also, Air America has ended its relationship with host Jerry Springer.

The right wing is sure to seize on Air America’s financial woes as a sign that progressive talk radio is unpopular. In fact, Air America succeeded at creating something that didn’t exist: the progressive talk radio format. That format is now established and strong and will continue with or without Air America. Indeed, many of the country’s most successful and widely-syndicated progressive talk hosts — Ed Schultz and Stephanie Miller, for instance — aren’t even associated with Air America.


But Think Progress is dead wrong, progressive radio simply isn't strong, beyond the moderate success Jones Radio has found with Schultz and Miller. Two examples aren't enough, especially when there have been so many failures.

In addition, it's quite clear that the "leak" to the liberal blogger was intended to allow the left time to spin the network's failure. It can't be that "progressive" radio is unpopular, instead, the problem is with Air America's mismanagement. Expect that one to be seared into the left's talking points list.



What's next for Air America? That isn't clear, but what is known from our end is that the most explosive stories on what has gone on behind the scenes have yet to be written. Watch for them here.

Meanwhile, Matt Drudge continues his bizarre antagonism toward conservative bloggers, ignoring every story about Air America's troubles that originated from the blogosphere. But today, he had no problem running with the bankruptcy story, since it originated from a left- wing site, even though it isn't yet verified. Update: he provides MORE links to liberal sites!


SPECIAL THANKS to Michelle Malkin for her continued support, read her take here. Michelle has a great point: some of the very sites (sometimes even on the conservative side of things) who have resisted linking to our reports (going all the way back to our collaborations on the Gloria Wise scandal) have now, without hesitation, immediately bought into an unconfirmed "report" from the left, that may or may not be true. We don't trust our own to be accurate, but assume the other side knows what it is talking about.


UPDATE: Randi Rhodes says she will address these reports after a staff meeting being held now. We may be able to get confirmation at that time. Rhodes sounds very distracted. Rush Limbaugh also discussed the story on his show today.

Randi: "why does all the scary crap happen on my watch? I'll be briefed shortly."


AIR AMERICA DUCKS THE ISSUE: a big hat tip to Perry Simon, who just obtained this quote from the company:

"If AIR AMERICA had filed for bankruptcy every time someone rumored it to be doing so, we would have ceased to exist long ago; it may be frustrating to some that this hasn’t happened. No decision has been taken to make any filing of any kind, we are not sure of the source of these rumors and frankly can not respond to every rumor in the marketplace."

Hey guys, this report comes from LEFTISTS! Are you smoking crack in there?


UPDATES: Randi is filibustering, rather than addressing the issue at hand.

Al Franken says he hasn't been paid in some time. Reader John B notes:

He hasn't been paid in a while? Hmmm... might be true, but I recall you had a detailed explanation of how he got paid in advance, on a quarterly basis. So he could be appearing to tell the truth, (woe is me!), but still laughing all the way to the bank (I already got mine!).


John, that's true, Franken and executive producer Billy Kimball planned for this years ago.


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75 Comments:

  • I don’t understand why AA is going bankrupt.

    Why don’t they just steal more money from the Boys and Girls clubs?
    .

    By Blogger The Benson Report, at 13 September, 2006 14:28  

  • As a silent reader here since Brian started exposing AA, I would like to say thank you. It will be a little sad because all the turmoil at AA was great entertainment.

    By Blogger MikeyMike, at 13 September, 2006 14:32  

  • Soros to the rescue! Please sign the petition urging rich liberals to arrange a bale out.

    By Blogger LonewackoDotCom, at 13 September, 2006 14:35  

  • Good riddance to bad rubbish.

    By Blogger Good Lieutenant, at 13 September, 2006 14:45  

  • So now where are all those liberals that have spent so long insisting Brian was lying about every bad thing to happen to AA? Where are those liberals that insisted AA was dominating the airwaves, and conservatives were just scared, trying to talk down AA? Where are those rich socialist liberals that worked at AA? Why is it that rich liberals are socialists and yet remain rich? If AA gets saved yet again, will they learn the obvious lesson that most liberals don't listen to talk radio, and most talk radio listeners don't want to hear rabid, incoherant, Christophobic, Anti-American, anti-troop, globalist liberalism.

    By Blogger Lonewatchman, at 13 September, 2006 14:54  

  • Here I am Lone...

    1. Before getting into AAR, how on earth can Brian claim: "Cash- starved Air America Radio is broke and up for sale, the Radio Equalizer has learned exclusively."
    Think Progress had the news HOURS before it appeared here, and Drudge linked to it there. You got scooped Brian.
    2. I have never said AAR was dominating anything, only that it remains on the air more than a year after Brian predicted its demise. It is certainly possible that the pending bankruptcy filing could indicate the final nail in the coffin. If, on the other hand, there are actual buyers, this will become little more than an embarassing balance sheet transaction. For example, I've got a Toys 'r' Us down the road from me. It was once bankrupt also.

    By Blogger Justin, at 13 September, 2006 15:27  

  • Congrats, Brian. You've always said it was coming, and it looks like it finally has. I wonder how the lefty regulars here will spin this one?

    By Blogger RedCard, at 13 September, 2006 15:30  

  • The difference, Justin, is that people actually buy things from Toys R Us. AAR, on the other hand, is your home for repetitive PSAs!

    The next time I hear a local spot on my AAR affiliate will be the first. Over a year on the air and they still haven't sold a single ad?!? I can't imagine that helping them in the bankruptcy proceedings.

    By Blogger BF, at 13 September, 2006 15:32  

  • I'm surprised. While I expected this to happen eventually, I had thought that AA's paymasters on the left would have propped it up until after the November elections. I wonder what the fact that they didn't means, if anything.

    By Blogger jjorsett, at 13 September, 2006 15:36  

  • Justin, my version of the story is different from theirs. I'm saying it's up for sale.

    Re-read my story.

    The hand-holding necessary here gets annoying sometimes.

    By Blogger Brian Maloney, at 13 September, 2006 15:46  

  • Hmm.. Anyone see a similarity here?

    Liberalism is based on government handouts, living off others, no personal accountability, and spending OTHER people's money.

    No wonder their premier radio venue goes bankrupt. Liberals know nothing about making a profit. They only know how to live off others- like Franken, Rhodes and the rest of the limo libs.

    Why is it that the "right wing" talk shows and stations are the most popular and profitable? When the libs claim that the nation prefers libs over conservatives, there should be more people and more $$$ for them..

    What about all of those rich Hollywood types and the rich liberals like Soros? Why can't they pitch in for the cause? Because they aren't stupid. Hell, even Hanoi Jane would rather start a new venture than throw her money down this hole. As I said, liberals are very easy to spend money- when it is not theirs.

    I wonder if Rhodes will take her fat arse back to Florida where she is at home with the rest of the tinfoil hat brigade.

    By Blogger right is right, at 13 September, 2006 15:46  

  • Brian,

    No, your lack of knowledge is annoying. All companies that file for bankruptcy protection are up for sale. That's the way it works. The company may submit a proposal for reorganization, but prospective buyers also are allowed to make their own proposals. A bankruptcy court judge makes the final decision.

    By Blogger Justin, at 13 September, 2006 16:01  

  • Brian's prediction came true, now allow me to make one of my own - Maloney's blog readership will decline by 90% in the next few months.

    And before you creeps try to spin the fact that people said the same thing about Limbaugh when Clinton left office, look at the facts. Go through the archives and see how many posts Brian gets on AAR stories and contrast that with the number of posts he gets on non-AAR stories. Quite frankly, it is incredibly sad. And this is at least the third time I've said this on here, and nobody has refuted it yet. If you can then fine, I won't be pissed. But I honestly want someone to try to refute that.

    By Blogger liberal outlaw, at 13 September, 2006 16:13  

  • What none of the usual supects have shown up yet to tell us yet again how this is "very good news" for AA? I guess the websites they read have not given them the talking points yet. Why not help them out. They dont need no stinkin' employees!!! Without paying boack the debts that they are going to welsh on in bankruptcy, they can give Al and Randi even more and that will finally get decent ratings, once Al and Randi feel the love and their self esteem is properly stoked they will really put themselves into it.

    Not that good? How about: It not suppose to make money, its being run for the people and profits are so so Walmartish!

    I got more but I am too busy laughing to type any at the moment.

    By Blogger Seriouslyunserious, at 13 September, 2006 16:13  

  • Actually Justin you are the one wrong. Not really out of character for you either. There is an exclusivity period in Chapter 11 where only the company gets to put together a plan of reorganization. Chapter 7 is a liquidation, where assets are sold by the Trustee. A chapter 11 filing must be converted to a Chapter 7 by the judge by lifting the exclusivity and determining a reorganization is not in the best interest of the unsecured creditors.

    By Blogger Seriouslyunserious, at 13 September, 2006 16:16  

  • Serious,

    Technically true, but not in practice. That 180-day period (which can sometimes be extended to 300 days) is regularly filled with alternate offers. Any company filing Chapter 11 is basically putting a "for sale" sign on its lawn. Moreso with Chap. 7 (agreed), but not all that much difference in practice.
    btw: Brian, you might want to tell Michelle Malkin that a Chap. 11 filing doesn't necessarily equate to "the end." (that's her headline). again, just may mean reorganization.

    By Blogger Justin, at 13 September, 2006 16:25  

  • Not completely dead yet..... but

    Soon my little ones...SOOOOOOON

    By Blogger Lokki, at 13 September, 2006 16:29  

  • Well Justin if you knew that then why did you bash Brian? Seems he was more correct than you were. And your weasel on "not in practice" needs to be seen for what it is, weasel words. I can submit an unsolicited offer for General Motors today too. Doesn't mean it will be accepted or given even a response. And in bankruptcy the exclusivity period acts to keep any offer from being of any value, for up to a year time ( or even longer in practice).

    By Blogger Seriouslyunserious, at 13 September, 2006 16:37  

  • I "bashed" Brian for claiming this was his scoop. It wasn't.

    By Blogger Justin, at 13 September, 2006 16:42  

  • Looks like Error America fans are learning a little lesson about economics and free markets.

    Bill O’Reilly will certainly enjoy this story.

    I had no idea one could file for intellectual bankruptcy. But if any one could, Air America qualifies.

    The new network name is OFF THE AIR America. You can’t preach gloom and doom and expect to survive. There are only so many "Black Helicopter” theories that you come up with. They just ran out of helicopters.

    Oh, by the way, the last Arbitron rating gave Limbaugh 22 million listeners.

    Great news. Rush Rules!
    .

    By Blogger The Benson Report, at 13 September, 2006 16:46  

  • I can't wait for Dr. Laura Part II.

    By Blogger Elmonica, at 13 September, 2006 16:50  

  • I'm also surprised that Democrats let AAR go belly under prior to the election. My suspicion is that it should have ceased long ago, had somehow managed to get enough money to slide by, but finally the people funding this have had enough, both in terms of dollars and in terms of contuned embarrrassment at the dismal ratings.

    In other words, this one is going to be VERY difficult to put in a positive light. When AAR started up people like Franken were expressing confidence that since half the country voted Democratic that meant that half the talk radio audience would be listening to AAR. That's not how it went, obviously. "Progressive" radio is already out there, but the ONLY way it is able to survive is by feeding at the public trough (and blatently in violation of two statutory madates on balance and objectivity as a condition of aceptance of public subsidies).
    To digress a bit, there is a good reason why progressive radio, as a network, can only exist with tax payer funding - the audience is miniscule, and has always been miniscule - far too small to be capable of existing on advertising.

    In fact, listening to AAR has always been an odd experience, because I'm so used to hearing progressive radio only in a publicly funded context. The fact that progressive radio has been able to exist so long on taxpayer dollars is a testament to the long hold the Democrats had on Congress and the real weakness and inability of Republicans even 12 years out to put their stamp on liberla publicly funded institutions.

    That's the real miracle of conservative talk radio, that it is popular enough to exist - and thrive - in a commercial context. Given that it does so well, it really is not a surprise that Republicans constitute the majority of the legislative and executive branches of the government. (and would have far bigger majorities were it not for an inarticulate chief executive - sorry, there's really no getting around that!)

    In fact, now that AAR is history how about focusing on public radio? It would be interesting to explore how public radio gets away with oodles of CPB dollars, while ignoring not just one but two statutory madates to present fair and balanced programming. Leftist pro-Democratic public radio has been getting away with it for not just years, but decades. My guess is that the ratings for these programs are so low as not to make it worth the effort, but it is infuriating that there are those who can simply thumb their nose at the law and get away with it year after year. It's about time that someone put a spotlight on this.

    Of course, if these programs were biased in favor of conservatives, the mainstream press would make it into a national scandal....

    By Blogger Alex, at 13 September, 2006 16:55  

  • One extra, very sweet bonus to this AAR story is the bankruptcy will invalidate the existing employment contracts.

    This just might put a sizeable dent in Franken's Minnesota war chest.
    .

    By Blogger The Benson Report, at 13 September, 2006 16:55  

  • Congrats, Brian

    Not only were you the only one in the media who accurately reported the sad pathetic story of AAR, but you exposed the liberal media for sweeping the story under the rug.

    As an aside, like many of the regulars on this site, I too am surprised that AAR didn't limp along until the election. Speaks volumes about how bad things were there.

    By Blogger Brett, at 13 September, 2006 17:02  

  • The fact that Rich Al got stiffed is worth the price of admission.

    Seriously, I think the reason Air America has suffered such difficulties is the fact that they're just one of many. Who needs Air America when you have CNN, MSNBC, CBS, NBC, ABC, NPR, and every other liberal-oriented news maven in the world?

    By Blogger EricInWisconsin, at 13 September, 2006 17:07  

  • The worst Air America program was way better than the "best" Brainless Baloney hate talk blatherthon.

    By Blogger Dovish, at 13 September, 2006 17:19  

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    By Blogger EricInWisconsin, at 13 September, 2006 17:28  

  • Ok, Dovish, I grant you that there's a lot of hate coming from Right-Wing Talk Radio... But I heard no less (and maybe even a little more) coming from Air America.

    Of course, maybe Al "Rush Limbaugh Is a Big Fat Idiot" Franken was just being fluffy and fun.

    I can feel the love, can't you?

    By Blogger EricInWisconsin, at 13 September, 2006 17:30  

  • And in the end, Brian was right and the liberal trolls were dead wrong. Will they issue their mea culpas for all of the lame bandwidth-eating personal attacks?

    Of course not. Why start now?

    By Blogger Darin, at 13 September, 2006 17:34  

  • The only thing I want to say is "bwahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!"

    I was actually listening to Air Deadbeat on mobiradio, and not a mention on of this.

    And it still sucks.

    By Blogger William Teach, at 13 September, 2006 17:51  

  • Justin, you aren't even reading what the story says. It makes a distinction between their report and my exclusive details.

    By Blogger Brian Maloney, at 13 September, 2006 18:03  

  • I will never understand the fascination of the financial dealings of a small radio network, when the illegal deficit of our nation is never, ever addressed.

    Who will THAT be blamed on?

    And, who CARES what that slanty-eyed traitorous rag thinks?

    Is that the new voice of neoconservatism, now that Coulter's been disposed of?

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 13 September, 2006 18:27  

  • Well, I'll be go to hell. Where is the response from all the people that have been on your case, predicting AA's demise?

    By Blogger AllenS, at 13 September, 2006 18:34  

  • AA isn't not going bankrupt, it's re-deploying!

    By Blogger L. Riofrio, at 13 September, 2006 18:35  

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    By Blogger Lidsville, at 13 September, 2006 18:36  

  • Who didn't see this coming? No one listens to AAR. That was no secret, just look at their ratings. You build your network around the likes of Randi Rhodes and expect to succeed?

    By Blogger Lidsville, at 13 September, 2006 18:37  

  • It seems that the bankruptcy rumor may very well be just that...a rumor (although it seems that this company will go down, if it continues to underestimate the enemy and make foolish decisions).

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 13 September, 2006 18:49  

  • Really Brian? You wrote: Cash- starved Air America Radio is broke and up for sale, the Radio Equalizer has learned exclusively. So you are claiming two pieces of "exclusive" info.
    1. First piece is that AAR is broke. Think Progress and others had that first (via the bankruptcy news).
    2. Second piece is that it's for sale. I think that's implicit in bankruptcy, but i'll grant you exclusivity. Still doesn't excuse the first part.

    By Blogger Justin, at 13 September, 2006 18:50  

  • Inquiring minds want to know: where is "samseder" to deliver his usual scorn and ridicule?

    By Blogger BF, at 13 September, 2006 18:56  

  • Here are some of the official talking points coming from the Left -- and my comments in parentheses:

    http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/13/
    air-america-bankruptcy/

    1. "The right wing is sure to seize on Air America’s financial woes as a sign that progressive talk radio is unpopular."

    (Nahhhh ... gee, why would anybody think that after so many Air America stations pulled ratings that were less than 1.0?)

    2. "In fact, Air America succeeded at creating something that didn’t exist: the progressive talk radio format."

    (CREATED the format??? This is silly on two counts. First, given the fact that Mario Cuomo once had his own talk show, the statement is already inaccurate. Second, and more importantly, what exactly is unique about liberal talk radio as opposed to conservative talk radio, aside from the political slant? The format has existed since Rush Limbaugh pioneered it.)

    3. "That format is now established and strong"

    (Of course it is -- because "that format" has propelled Limbaugh, Hannity and others to the top of their genre. As for liberal talk radio, it is neither.)

    4. "... and will continue with or without Air America. Indeed, many of the country’s most successful and widely-syndicated progressive talk hosts — Ed Schultz and Stephanie Miller, for instance — aren’t even associated with Air America."

    (Ummm, ok, that's two, not to mention Alan Colmes. But how many conservative talk show hosts have successful shows -- and several times more listeners? Look and see: http://www.talkers.com/talkhosts.htm )

    5. "Radio giant Clear Channel is so committed to progressive talk radio that, this week, it will announce a partnership with the Center for American Progress and MSS Inc. to conduct a nationwide search for the next Progressive Talk Radio Star."

    (I find this hilarious on three counts:
    1. American is still waiting for the FIRST progressive talk radio star. [I wouldn't call Schultz or Miller a "star" yet. Moderately successful, maybe, but not stars.]

    2. What makes them think they'll actually find one?

    3. Isn't it interesting that instead of scooping up one of the free agents who'll likely be stumbling away from the crashed Air America dirigible, they're actually going to be looking for new blood? If so, that's not great news for the talk radio careers of Al, Randi and the other AAR kids who'll probably be getting the pink slip.)

    By Blogger The4thEstate, at 13 September, 2006 19:01  

  • Here's something I'd like to know: If somebody or some company did step in and pluck Air America from the close-out table, what exactly would the purchaser get for his money?

    Seriously, besides tote bags and bumper stickers, what inventory does Air America really have to offer? Are overpriced contracts part of the deal?

    By Blogger The4thEstate, at 13 September, 2006 19:08  

  • hashfanatic said ...
    I will never understand the fascination of the financial dealings of a small radio network, when the illegal deficit of our nation is never, ever addressed.

    So ... ummm ... why are you here, Hash?

    If that's really your interest, maybe you should go mingle with the like-minded folk at blogspot.illegaldeficit.com.

    By Blogger The4thEstate, at 13 September, 2006 19:15  

  • What is the importance of the ratings and numbers, when even WABC personalities admit on-air that the numbers themselves are corrupted?

    Trust me, the dark forces that control our media don't give those stats a second's moment worth of thought. The sponsors know exactly what train they are jumping on, to deliver what demographic they harp to.

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 13 September, 2006 19:16  

  • Fourth, because I want to be, because I choose to comment, and because there's really not much you can do to stop me....

    Neocons are corrupt, beholden to special foreign interests, and cannot be believed under any circumstances.

    Spin it whatever way you choose, blame your failed policies on Air America, Dan Rather, or whoever else is to be crucified this week.

    It won't change the fact that neocons have destroyed this once-proud land, and conservatives don't even have the courage to reclaim their own movement, much less justifiably criticize progressive voices.

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 13 September, 2006 19:21  

  • Brian got it right!! Brian was right all along.

    Keep us up to date on what is happening with these fact-deprived miscreants, Brian.

    Keep the trolls posting in your comments too. They're hilarious--no, no, everything's okay, we're doing fine, no problem . . . you can't exaggerate their flatlining.

    By Blogger al fin, at 13 September, 2006 19:30  

  • Cons are in a circle jerk, so hysterical, bankrupt or not, the product will remain on the air, like the NY post stays in print with an $8 million a year loss. The show goes on at A.A, the message continues, the Republicans continue to piss off America and November is lookng good for Americans and Bad for Republicans.

    The bad news cons, the message goes on, just like thousands of other companies operating in chapter 7.
    And in an effort to save America, from circle jerking, Bush sheep, neo-clowns, and Christ killing fascists

    Evil Liberal Propaganda Network continues to urinate on the Anti-American far far right wing, the scourge of America, the enemy of democracy, you filthy right winger can circle jerk over A.A's finances but you cant stop the message, it will be heard, and every day it's heard, more impotent Republicans punch their steering wheel inbetween large doses of viagara

    Evil Liberal Propaganda Network
    Monday and Thursday Nights 10PM-Mid on indieairplay.com

    By Blogger Minister of Propaganda, at 13 September, 2006 19:40  

  • "Cons are in a circle jerk..."

    And, for as long as they are, they should consider me the sand in their Vaseline.

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 13 September, 2006 19:46  

  • Since the Evil Liberal Propaganda Network continues to urinate and have such a fascination on circle jerking, I suggest you schedule an appointment with your local proctologist.

    By Blogger The Benson Report, at 13 September, 2006 19:51  

  • Not so fast. I think it may be a case of "we decided to file for bankruptcy protection ... beforer we decided not to."

    And, it's soothing to know that s soon as the bank finishes doing their credit check on Soros, G., things will be right back to normal, and I can keep tuning in. What frequency is that on again? Oh, really? That one? ... Well we don't get that one. Never mind; carry on.

    If a tree fell in the forest .....

    By Blogger Terry Ott, at 13 September, 2006 19:54  

  • "you filthy right winger can circle jerk over A.A's finances but you cant stop the message, it will be heard, and every day it's heard, more impotent Republicans punch their steering wheel inbetween large doses of viagara


    Speaking of large doses of medication....have you seen your doctor lately?

    By Blogger Lokki, at 13 September, 2006 19:54  

  • Benson, you are by far the most ignorant person on here. You bring up how the "trolls" on here bring up urinating and circle-jerking and suggest they go to a proctologist. I'm sure you meant urologist.

    That aside, I've never said that AAR won't fail. In fact, if you look through what I've posted, you'll see that I've actually wished for them to fail. I don't listen to talk radio at all because it is incredibly boring. Coupled with the fact that I have better things to do. And I would like to thank every single one of you conservative boot-lickers for doing exactly what I predicted in my earlier post - Not refuting the fact that this will also cause Maloney to go down. You couldn't do it, so you didn't even address it.

    Kudos. See you in November.

    By Blogger liberal outlaw, at 13 September, 2006 21:47  

  • I meant exactly what I said. The troll you are referring to is the biggest asshole on this blog.

    Proctology is a field in medicine dealing with diseases and disorders of the rectum, anus, colon and pelvic floor. The word Proctology is derived from the Greek word Proktos, meaning anus or hindparts.

    By Blogger The Benson Report, at 13 September, 2006 22:24  

  • Thanks for all the hyperventilating excitement, Freepers. AAR has always had a brilliant business strategy of not paying for any advertising (apart from what they self promote on the air). They are able to do this by agitating the freepers and getting people talking about it all the time. Witness the fact that Bill O'Reilly can not keep from talking about AAR, and I know about this even though I don't watch O'Reilly. The lack of advertising in other media means that they can spend their money on operating costs.

    By the same token, this strategy has allowed other progressive talker like Miller and Schultz to provide mutual benefits and pull each other along.

    Bottom line is that AAR is getting more free advertising from these rumors or facts; true or not it doesn't matter as long as Malkin, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, etc talk about it, along with the big guns of the progessive blogosphere such as Atrios and Kos. Since when has this hurt anybody? They don't care what they say about the station as long as you get the network's name approximately phonetically correct. B.M. has inadvertantly been a supporter all along. Keep it coming.

    By Blogger WHT, at 13 September, 2006 22:40  

  • Would you please stop callin Err America "progressive"? This is gobbledygook from leftists who realize that the vast majority of Americans loathe and despise leftists, and are desperate to make people forget what they really stand for.

    There is nothing progressive about them. They are regressive. The correct label for "progressives" is radical left. Better yet, the insane, mouth-breathing left.

    Thanks.

    By Blogger Lou Minatti, at 13 September, 2006 23:16  

  • WHT said: "The lack of advertising in other media means that they can spend their money on operating costs." Later, this: "Bottom line is that AAR is getting more free advertising from these rumors or facts; true or not it doesn't matter as long as Malkin, O'Reilly, Limbaugh, etc talk about it, along with the big guns of the progessive blogosphere such as Atrios and Kos. Since when has this hurt anybody? They don't care what they say about the station as long as you get the network's name approximately phonetically correct. B.M. has inadvertantly been a supporter all along. Keep it coming."

    WHT - Given the above is true, then riddle me this, talk radio genius: Why is AAR failing? With all that free pub, why are they still scraping the bottom of the Arbitron barrel? And where is all that mad advo jack (that AAR has ostensibly saved) going?

    Strawman: If your little vaporcast is so awesome and relevant, then why only two days a week? Why is nobody paying to put advo on your shows? Why don't you have a listing in the NextBigHit forums? Why is there not one mention of ELBN on the NBH website?

    By Blogger JD, at 13 September, 2006 23:18  

  • No, it is the neocons who are regressive, with their insistence that the world subscribe to 4th-century rabbinic rantings and false flag anthems.

    How dare you filthy vermin not take responsibility for the havoc you have wreaked upon this defenseless land?

    Indeed, upon the world?

    Never any oversight, never any accountability. One is reminded of the seigneurs in rural Quebec, before the Quiet Revolution.

    Out of our country at once, and take your fat opiate junkies and sleazy shirt launderesses with you....

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 13 September, 2006 23:48  

  • JD, you have to realize that all this stuff barely makes a profit. Why do you think stations hire interns who will work for nothing? And that is the rule at all the stations I hear about. Most of the techies that run the commercial stations come out of 2-year schools. These things are the equivalent of Dairy Queen franchises where they raid the local high schools for staff. Remember that old TV show WKRP? It's still a lot like that; I recently saw an advertisement for a rural station where they wanted to hire an ad sales representative who had to have his own client list. I picture Herb Tarlek and some JC kid playing around with a computer getting the network feed.

    If it wasn't for AAR, I would be listening more to "failed" community radio stations, "failed" college stations, and "failed" free-form stations like WFMU.org. All these stations barely scrape by with volunteer help and pledge drives. Buddy, I am used to listening to stuff that hangs on by a thread. But that's what gives these stations life and vitality, and why I tend to be a fan.

    You've got a lot to learn. Check out a micro radio network such as DemocracyNow! It somehow gets on over 200 stations worldwide with ZERO advertising. Heck if I know how it keeps going year after year, scooping a lot of other media outlets consistently, and without any benefit of mass media exposure.
    http://democracynow.org/stations.pl?op=fullsearch&broadcast=all

    Oh yeah, I guess I do. The people running it don't ask for a lot of money. Ha Ha. Socialist weasels you'll probably say.

    By Blogger WHT, at 14 September, 2006 00:02  

  • These are the same people who watch "American Idol" and consider it high entertainment.

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 14 September, 2006 00:19  

  • (song: "They're Coming to America", Neil Diamond)

    Everywhere around the world
    They laugh at Air America
    Listened to Franken, and I hurled
    He's still on Air America

    Where the libs are so angry
    They're all on Air America
    But now they might have bankruptcy
    Bad news for Air America

    ...Bad news for Air America
    ...Bad news for Air America, today!

    By Blogger raccoonradio, at 14 September, 2006 04:22  

  • >>The correct label for "progressives" is radical left.

    True. Note that the label "progressive talk" came from the Left, of course (not from the Right
    or media critics). They would rather say, for example, "Boston's Progressive Talk" not "Boston's
    Liberal Talk" on the local AAR
    station. (Which, for all we know,
    might start running
    ethnic or religion or Music Of Your
    Life sooner or later. Something that makes money.)

    Between Reagan and Limbaugh, the "L" word got demonized (and rightly so) so liberals wouldn't dare
    call their local AAR station "Liberal Talk".

    By Blogger raccoonradio, at 14 September, 2006 04:27  

  • Benson, you miss the point. You were speaking of issues that were in reference to the penis, not the anus. More specifically, what comes out of the penis. Those are issues that are dealt with by a urologist, not a proctologist. And I know that it is probably hard for you to separate the anus and penis, but please try to get your medical references straight for the future.

    By Blogger liberal outlaw, at 14 September, 2006 09:39  

  • All these stations barely scrape by with volunteer help and pledge drives. Buddy, I am used to listening to stuff that hangs on by a thread. But that's what gives these stations life and vitality, and why I tend to be a fan.

    This is also evidence that there's very litttle market for it. If it's hanging on by a thread, and only by the grace of it's tiny listenership, it isn't a commercially viable product. It's little more than HAM radio.

    By Blogger Pablo, at 14 September, 2006 09:49  

  • . The troll you are referring to is the biggest asshole on this blog.
    **********************************
    hahahahahahaah I'm glad you feel that way, I think you are a big huge hack. I'm not a troll, a troll poses as a 'liberal' when they are a "conservative" or poses as a "conservative" when they are a "liberal". I'm just a pain in the ass of the regressive, bigoted, mentally unstable, freakish, radical right. Not a single person on this board is a "conservative". This administration is not conservative. Rush is not a conservative, either is Hannity. The only conservative in radio is Savage, and he is a poor example, his, bigotry, racism, and mental unstability make him a poor example. I tell it like it is, fake Bush-conservatives are insane, and deserve insults. I'm not a "moonbat", I'm not 'Anti-American", "pro-terrorist", or any of those insults the filthy pigs on AM radio accuse "liberals" of being. I'm a patriot, something party over country conservatives will never understand. It eats them alive. I will continue to call fake-conservatives EXACTLY what they are, FREAKISH HACKS.
    As far as A.A, it will remain on the air , bankrupt or not. Every day they get out the message, cons shit their pants in fear, the TRUTH is heard, cons LOSE.
    Fake Bush-cons are enemies of America, their ignorance is leading America into fascism. I will not be silent. I will continue to do what I do, and continue to do my tiny talk show, it is only right.

    You can be a conservative and not be a dumb-ass. stand by conservative principals, this sick administration displays NOT A SINGLE CONSERVATIVE TRAIT. And the Christian pandering is not CONSERVATIVE.

    By Blogger Minister of Propaganda, at 14 September, 2006 09:51  

  • Liberal Outlaw,
    Jeeze, you're the one who missed the point, dimwit! Where do you think the circle jerk troll keeps his unit most of the time?

    By Blogger The Benson Report, at 14 September, 2006 09:53  

  • How many airlines declared bankruptcy, and were not held accountable for their inability to manage money properly, and maintain discipline within their ranks?

    What about the now-conveniently-forgotten savings and loan fiascoes? No oversight there.

    How many corporatist entities lose money in their first few years of operation, with little comment?

    Bankruptcy could paradoxically be the best thing to happen to Air America anyway. If they do not seize upon the opportunity to throw the moneychangers out and dispose of the PINOs like Franken, however, it will be an exercise in futility.

    And, quite a hypocritical one at that.

    I'm not holding my breath, waiting for some "announcement" tomorrow.

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 14 September, 2006 10:15  

  • How many corporatist entities lose money in their first few years of operation, with little comment?

    Not many, because they go out of business and don't have bottomless shadow donors providing their financial lifelilne.

    's called the market.

    Thanks for playing.

    By Blogger Good Lieutenant, at 14 September, 2006 11:37  

  • REALLY?

    They don't have shadow donors?

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 14 September, 2006 11:40  

  • hashfanatic said ...
    I will never understand the fascination of the financial dealings of a small radio network, when the illegal deficit of our nation is never, ever addressed.

    TheFourthEstate said ...
    So ... ummm ... why are you here, Hash?

    If that's really your interest, maybe you should go mingle with the like-minded folk at blogspot.illegaldeficit.com.


    hashfanatic said ...
    Fourth, because I want to be, because I choose to comment, and because there's really not much you can do to stop me....

    TheFourthEstate said ...
    I really don't care whether anybody stops you or not, since you aren't doing anything worth stopping; I simply wondered why you come here if you're more interested in the so-called "illegal deficit of our nation."

    The "radio" part in this blog's title should give you a strong clue that its content won't have much to do with deficits. Ergo, why complain that people who frequent a radio blog aren't that interested in discussing deficits, illegal or otherwise?


    hashfanatic said ...
    Neocons are corrupt, beholden to special foreign interests, and cannot be believed under any circumstances.

    TheFourthEstate said ...
    That may or may not be, and since I'm not a neocon, I couldn't care less.

    hashfanatic said ...
    Spin it whatever way you choose, blame your failed policies on Air America, Dan Rather, or whoever else is to be crucified this week.

    TheFourthEstate said ...
    I think the topic of this thread is Air America's failed policies. And there's no need to spin what simply is.

    hashfanatic said ...
    It won't change the fact that neocons have destroyed this once-proud land, and conservatives don't even have the courage to reclaim their own movement, much less justifiably criticize progressive voices.

    TheFourthEstate said ...
    See, the whole Air America thing only illustrates the reality -- which is that liberals, progressives or whatever people like you call yourselves today seem unable to come to terms with the fact that you and your ideas are essentially irrelevant to most Americans. We don't need you to tell us how to think, what to do, etc., and Air America's reported grounding is further evidence that no one wanted to listen to those libs, either. Of course, most of us in here knew this would happen from the start.

    But y'know, if you want to continue to blame your own failure on evil neocons, voting machines, grassy knolls, Area 51 aliens, cattle mutilations or whatever, I guarantee you that no conservative is going to mind. Denying reality merely prevents you from figuring out where the problem really lies -- and who it really lies with.

    By Blogger The4thEstate, at 14 September, 2006 15:25  

  • WHT said...
    JD, you have to realize that all this stuff barely makes a profit. Why do you think stations hire interns who will work for nothing? And that is the rule at all the stations I hear about. Most of the techies that run the commercial stations come out of 2-year schools. These things are the equivalent of Dairy Queen franchises where they raid the local high schools for staff. Remember that old TV show WKRP? It's still a lot like that; I recently saw an advertisement for a rural station where they wanted to hire an ad sales representative who had to have his own client list. I picture Herb Tarlek and some JC kid playing around with a computer getting the network feed.

    If it wasn't for AAR, I would be listening more to "failed" community radio stations, "failed" college stations, and "failed" free-form stations like WFMU.org. All these stations barely scrape by with volunteer help and pledge drives. Buddy, I am used to listening to stuff that hangs on by a thread. But that's what gives these stations life and vitality, and why I tend to be a fan.

    You've got a lot to learn.



    TheFouthEstate said ...

    I think you're comparing apples to apples, while forgetting about the oranges.

    In other words, sure it's true that small, rural, daytime-only stations with 500-watt transmitters may not make more money by broadcasting farm reports than small, rural, daytime-only stations with 500-watt transmitters make when they broadcast Air America.

    But remember, not every radio station in America has a bullhorn-strength signal. And that's precisely why any veteran observer of the radio industry could have predicted that Air America was building its house on quicksand from Day One.

    Unless you've got one butt-kicking format that bubbles up quickly from the grass roots, you're not going to attract an audience with a network of stations whose combined wattage could barely light a Christmas tree. No one's going to hear you, especially when a thunderstorm rumbles through and zaps your signal with eardrum-pounding static. Meanwhile, even if you do broadcast at night, you're going to get interference from other stations on the same frequency as dusk approaches (thanks to a lot of technical stuff that I won't bother mentioning).

    But here's the real point: Without a phenomenally good format, Air America had no chance whatsoever of putting a dent in conservative talk radio -- because the right-wingers have their shows on America's biggest and baddest AM stations. We're talking 50,000-watters that compare to most of Air America's stations like a battleship compares to a homemade raft.

    And before anybody screams, "Unfair!" ... remember that Limbaugh and his colleagues built their networks the old-fashioned way: They earned it. More than once, a conservative talk show started on, say, a 5,000-watt station and got picked up by the 50,000-watt bully on the block (which was tired of getting its tush whipped in the ratings).

    So ... I agree that many stations at the bottom of the heap do indeed scrape by financially, but behemoth stations with crushing signals do considerably better at scoring advertisers, ratings, and most of all, listeners.

    By Blogger The4thEstate, at 14 September, 2006 16:10  

  • "So ... I agree that many stations at the bottom of the heap do indeed scrape by financially, but behemoth stations with crushing signals do considerably better at scoring advertisers, ratings, and most of all, listeners."

    And this is all fine and good, Fourth.

    But your corporatist "bottom line" is your raison d'etre, not we on the left.

    We are truthseekers. We're interested in the truth, not how much money Disney and Clear Channel make off lies, and personality cults surrounding suppressive, regressive radio hosts.

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 14 September, 2006 20:08  

  • Hashfanatic said ...
    And this is all fine and good, Fourth.

    But your corporatist "bottom line" is your raison d'etre, not we on the left.

    We are truthseekers. We're interested in the truth, not how much money Disney and Clear Channel make off lies, and personality cults surrounding suppressive, regressive radio hosts.


    It's not my bottom line -- it's THE bottom line. Radio is a business, ratings and advertising revenue matter, and regardless of how much or little you're personally interested in capitalism, it's what determines which formats survive and which ones don't.

    Hey, I didn't make the rules ... I'm just the messenger. In a free society, when it comes to radio stations and formats, people vote with their ears. And if they liked what they were hearing on Air America, we wouldn't be talking about the network's bankruptcy.

    By Blogger The4thEstate, at 14 September, 2006 21:28  

  • But here's the real point: Without a phenomenally good format, Air America had no chance whatsoever of putting a dent in conservative talk radio -- because the right-wingers have their shows on America's biggest and baddest AM stations. We're talking 50,000-watters that compare to most of Air America's stations like a battleship compares to a homemade raft.


    Fair enough, but they also have XM radio, which happens to put every 50 kW station to shame with its output range. But when it comes down to it, XM is nothing more than a zero-man show when you think of the differential output it takes to program an addditional channel. That, good buddy, is one of the futures (note the plural) of broadcast media.

    By Blogger WHT, at 14 September, 2006 21:58  

  • That pic at the top of the 'Radio Equalizer' homepage... Isn't that actually a photo of the tone controls on a Peavey Guitar Amplifier?

    By Blogger RetroTones, at 15 September, 2006 14:13  

  • WHT said ...
    Fair enough, but they also have XM radio, which happens to put every 50 kW station to shame with its output range. But when it comes down to it, XM is nothing more than a zero-man show when you think of the differential output it takes to program an addditional channel. That, good buddy, is one of the futures (note the plural) of broadcast media.


    Valid point regarding XM's range, and there's no doubt that satellite radio has greater geographic coverage -- and may someday kick traditional broadcast radio from sea to shining sea.

    But as we both know, the problem at this stage is the dramatic gap between POTENTIAL XM listeners and ACTUAL XM listeners. Last I heard, XM had something like 4 million subscribers -- not a bad total, perhaps, but nothing that's going to generate massive ratings for any particular network, such as Air America.

    Ten or 20 years from now, who knows? Will Americans write a check each month for satellite radio? If I lived out West, I probably would (lots of wide-open spaces with lousy radio coverage in northeast Arizona, for instance) -- ditto if I drove an 18-wheeler for a living -- but in other parts of the nation, I don't see a stampede to sign up. And Wall Street seems to think XM and Sirius would be better off merged.

    Anyway, my bet is that regardless of whether it gets a temporary cash fix, Air America won't be around long enough to reap the fruits of whatever satellite radio boom occurs.

    By Blogger The4thEstate, at 16 September, 2006 08:25  

  • Actually, satellite radio is not going to save them either, and may go the way of AAR, though not for the same reasons. Neither provider is doing well.

    XMSR stock has gone down 67% in the past year (mid October 2005=$32.00, mid October 2006=12.05).

    SIRI has not fared much better, and has gone down 37% (mid October 2005=$6.20, mid October 2006=$3.88).

    One of the reasons is that this here town may not be big enough for the two of them, and the dust may settle seeing only one of them (a merger most likely) surviving the end of this decade....and, bear in mind, that is *with* Howard Stern.

    By Blogger southpaw, at 15 October, 2006 01:13  

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