The Radio Equalizer: Brian Maloney

05 October 2006

Talk Radio, Mark Foley Flap


And Libs Who Pushed Story Are Aiding Conservative Talk!

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Late revelations that Mark Foley's primary accuser was in fact 18 at the time of the now- infamous IM exchanges initiated by the creepy ex- representative, in addition to news that a fishy blog was behind the strange timing of this entire mess, may well provide the ingredients for a backlash against Democrats and mainstream media outlets that have pushed this story to amazing extremes.

In the meantime, talk radio hosts are set to benefit from a major story having hit during what would have been a lackluster campaign season, with only a tiny percentage of the public paying attention.

While none of the new disclosures take anything away from former Rep Foley's deplorable behavior, there is an emerging sense that neither political party has clean hands in this situation.

Radar, for example, reports that a "bogus" blog was set up by unnamed individuals, complete with fake, backdated posts, just to "break" the Foley story. Is anyone to believe that this wasn't cooked up by somebody with a lot to gain in November? In particular, if opponents were aware of this mess months ago, why did they wait until October to launch their surprise?

In addition, one of the key accusations against Foley was that his disgusting, predatory behavior was aimed at children, yet we now know that at least one of those involved was 18 at the time of the instant message exchanges.

Another element of the emerging backlash has been within the conservative movement, where there is a heated debate over what to do about the mess, especially in regard to the future of the current House leadership and Speaker Dennis Hastert. Granted, many disaffected conservatives were already looking for an excuse to turn against the entrenched GOP establishment, but the case against Hastert is now weakening as we speak.

Between talk radio, Michelle Malkin and the Wall Street Journal, a surprisingly nasty internal debate has developed over the various positions taken by prominent conservatives over the past week. Judging by the glee with which mainstream media outlets have reported on this battle, it appears increasingly probable that this was the opposition's intent all along.

At the Washington Post, known partisan Dana Milbank was quick to jump on the idea that conservative talkers need to be reassured by Hastert that everything was okay:

House Speaker Dennis Hastert woke up yesterday morning to find his Republican conservatives in mid-mutiny.

"Resign, Mr. Speaker," advised the Wash- ington Times at the top of its editorial page. In the Mark Foley scandal, the conservative paper posited, Hastert either (a) "was grossly negligent" or (b) "deliberately looked the other way."

In the last few days, Hastert, a genial former wrestling coach from Illinois, is proving the axiom devised by former senator/philosopher Alan Simpson (R-Wyo.): "One day you're the toast of the town, the next day you're toast."

It was time for Hastert to take action to put down the mutiny. So he called Rush Limbaugh. And Sean Hannity. And Hugh Hewitt. And Lars Larson. And Roger Hedgecock. Even Neal Boortz, who said Hastert should find a "better excuse" for his inaction on Foley. "We're going to do them all," said Hastert aide Ron Bonjean.

Limbaugh, taking Hastert's call early in the afternoon, got right down to business. "The Washington Times' admittedly conservative editorial page has asked for you to step down," he pointed out.

"Well, yeah, I'm not going to do that," Hastert said casually, as if the Washington Times had suggested he order grapefruit for breakfast.

Limbaugh set about making the case for Hastert. Democrats and the media, he said, are making the speaker look more "interested in holding the House rather than protecting children."

"Yeah" was the entirety of Hastert's reply.

"I like what you said yesterday," Limbaugh continued, when Hastert "asked for an investigation into who knew what when."

"I don't think you could ask anybody better than the FBI," Hastert concurred. Limbaugh encouraged Hastert to change the subject to the economy and national security. Hastert dutifully responded with a few remarks about the economy and national security.

Eventually, Limbaugh closed with the warning that Democrats and the media would press the issue "even though you've dealt with it, even though he's gone, even though the mistake has been corrected."

Hastert again agreed. "They're trying to put us on defense," he said.

Even as Hastert was on the air with Limbaugh, ABC News was publishing more instant messages Foley had sent to former pages. Clearly, Hastert needed more help. Bush, traveling in California, told the cameras that Hastert "is a father, teacher, coach who cares about the children of this country."

When even that proved insufficient, Hastert turned at 5 p.m. to Hannity's radio show, "the last beacon of truth in a troubled time."

Hannity had spent two hours accusing the Democrats of "dirty tricks" and "hypocrisy" and taking issue with the Washington Times' call for Hastert's head.

"I was shocked at the Washington Times today," he told Hastert, then got down to the questioning. "As you said, this is all brand new to you as of Friday?"

"Right," Hastert agreed.

Hannity asked if Hastert's foes had the Foley messages but "sat on them for political reasons."

"I just think it's awful strange," the speaker agreed.

Hannity, invoking Democratic sex scandals involving then-Massachusetts Rep. Gerry Studds (1983), Massachusetts Rep. Barney Frank (1990) and President Bill Clinton (1998), asked: "Do you think there's a double standard?"

"Yes, it appears there's a double standard," the speaker agreed.

Hannity was not finished. "In all seriousness, how would you be responsible for what another congressman does on an instant message? How could you possibly know this kind of thing was going on?"

"We don't know," the speaker agreed.

In addition, the Post's media critic Howard Kurtz added more, here.

With the right distracted, there's little time to put out a unified, coherent message before election day. But many conservatives were already so disillusioned by this Republican Congress that they had already intended to sit out this November's contest.

Limbaugh, for his part, refuses to believe that GOP voter turnout will be low as a result of this mess. From yesterday's official transcript:

RUSH: (story) "Newt Gingrich said yesterday that Denny Hastert handled this whole situation appropriately and dismissed a call for Hastert's resignation by the Washington Times. 'I don't agree with that,' Newt said. 'I think it's very premature, very inappropriate.' Gingrich was in Lexington, Kentucky, to give a speech to the University of Kentucky Sanders Brown Center On Aging Foundation." Hastert's getting some support someplace.

LA Times story today: "Foley Scandal Shakes GOP." This is by Janet Hook and Ronald Brownstein. "Hastert, who was elevated to his post during the turmoil caused by the sex scandal involving President Clinton on Tuesday shrugged off calls to quit. 'I'm not going to do that,' he said, during an appearance on conservative commentary Rush Limbaugh's radio show, but there was no consensus among conservative leaders that Hastert or other House GOP leaders should step down."

Notice how the template just easily gets placed out there. Somebody says Hastert should go, and it becomes the whole focus of the day of the Drive-By Media. "Limbaugh, during his show Tuesday, charged that much of the furor over Hastert was fueled by Democrats who wanted to suppress conservative turnout in November." Yes, I did "charge that," but it's true. There is no question that that's all this is about: suppressing conservative turnout.

That's the only way the Democrats have any hope of winning. "Other prominent conservative voices, including Focus on the Family, the Wall Street Journal editorial page, rejected the idea that any GOP leader should resign." Mr. Snerdley told me today that he thinks I was the driving force yesterday that kept a parade of weak-kneed conservative organizations from jumping on board the Hastert resignation message.

See, Republicans and conservatives are conflicted over this, and the conflict derives from only looking at it in one way, and that is: "Oh, my God! We have a creep and a pervert in our party and we stand for what? He's gotta go, and anybody that had even the slightest knowledge, clear 'em out of there. We can't afford this," and that's understandable.

But they fail or don't attach enough importance to the political tactics, the strategy, the tactical effort that this is by Democrats to take out Republican leaders -- and every time somebody demands a Republican resign, if we're going to say, "Yep, yep, yep! Okay. We'll quit," it's just bad. I mean, Foley's gone! Foley's been gone since Friday and yet this story survives. The story survives because it's only about using this to continue to get Republicans to quit and get out of there, on the basis of "doing the right thing" or what have you.

The right thing has been done. Foley is gone! Denny Hastert didn't send any instant messages that I know of. Denny Hastert didn't send any of these e-mails. Denny Hastert didn't do any of this! As Hastert himself as said, somebody's known about this for a number of years. He didn't, but somebody has and all these holier-than-thou people stepping forward saying they do this for the children couldn't have cared less against possible sex crimes against children.

Here's a story by Charlotte Raab from the French News Agency: "A roiling sex scandal that led to the resignation of a prominent Republican lawmaker has left the party fearing conservative voters may sit out next month's crucial midterm elections, as President George W. Bush said he was 'disgusted' by the affair."

With Republicans clearly damaged by the scandal and new indications that Democrats may not benefit from it either, given their unclean hands, talk radio may emerge as the only winner in this ugly mess.

The irony, of course, is that the very liberal partisans who pushed this story will be kicking themselves when they realize that Limbaugh, Hannity and the others have been handed a huge ratings boost at a key time: during the all- important fall Arbitron ratings book.

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  • Unclean hands? Stick to your regurgitation of stuff you read other places and repeating the same old story about Air America, lay off the poorly crafted spin...

    from the Hill Magazine
    Longtime Republican was source of e-mails

    You could drown in six inches of water,Piker.

    By Blogger Lifa, at 05 October, 2006 07:21  

  • Foley's emails/IMs to the page began when he was 17, and continued after his 18th birthday.

    Just in case the facts ever interest you Brian. But, then again, you still believe this just has to do with "gay sex" (which I guess means that you equate homesexuals with predators).

    By Blogger Justin, at 05 October, 2006 07:56  

  • You guys seem mighty touchy this morning. Worried the party might be over?

    By Blogger Brian Maloney, at 05 October, 2006 07:59  

  • Liberals always scream bloody murder when their scams backfire into their faces.

    If Your party's leadership and supporters must resign due to scandal, there are a lot of overdue resignations on the Democrat side of the asile. Maybe every Democrat who applauded Gerry Dtudds ought to resign immediately. Now, what would that do to the Democrat leadership in the House?

    By Blogger PCD, at 05 October, 2006 08:29  

  • This is no party Brian -- it is a disturbing situation in which a Congressman preyed on underage pages. All I ask is that you report the facts accurately, and then insert your opinion.
    You have incorrectly reported that this isssue is:
    A: About "gay sex," when it is not (or else to log cabin republicans would all have resigned long ago).
    B: That Foley's contacts with the page in question occured when the page was 18. SOME of the contacts did occur when he was 18, but others occured when he was 17.

    This isn't a partisan issue, no matter how much you want to make it one.

    By Blogger Justin, at 05 October, 2006 08:36  

  • Hey PCD, I love how you bring up Studds without mentioning Daniel Crane, the Republican who was censured AT THE EXACT SAME TIME as Studds.

    Do a little research before you point fingers.

    As for the age of the boy in the Foley case - it doesn't matter. Neither does Foley's sexuality. The criminal aspect is that he used phone and internet across state lines (some of the IM's came from Florida, in MY city no less) to solicit sex. ask any prosecutor, and they will tell you that this is serious business.

    Republicans no longer have a leg to stand on. so much for the party of "Moral Values"

    By Blogger liberal outlaw, at 05 October, 2006 09:46  

  • My my my...

    Why can't you people leave these two alone? It's two people of legal age discussing a private matter.

    At least that was one of the defenses offered for Clinton's indiscretions!

    Justin, ABC claims some of the IMs are from before the page was 18, but those have not appeared yet. Of course, what's the age of consent in the places where these happened? Oh, 16... Yeah, no more underage issues are there?

    Oh, and Liberal Outlaw? I guess all those traveling businessmen who call home to tell their wives they can't wait to get home and sleep with them are committing crimes?

    It's ONLY a crime if you solicit for sex FOR MONEY. Otherwise every single guy cruising a bar for girls would be guilty of solicitation.

    Get a clue! This "scandal" is going down big-time. It's starting to backfire, and it will take all the efforts of the mainstream media to keep it from completely blowing up the Democrats.

    Two LEGAL AGED MALE ADULTS involved. The house Leadership has already asked the Congressman to resign (which he did). ZERO facts about the Leadership knowing anything other than what they have claimed (your desires and guess notwithstanding).

    So, what did the mainstream media know and when did they know it? Apparently several months ago they knew everything...

    You want to be upset at a coverup? Vent your anger on those who kept this under wraps - who have ADMITTED they kept it under wraps - the mainstream media.

    So, given the fact that all parties were of legal age, and ZERO sexual contact has happened (nothing, nada - this is about WORDS), how can you condemn Foley and the house Leadership while giving Clinton a pass?

    Hypocrisy really sucks, doesn't it? Must be hard to rationalize this away...

    By Blogger Lynnwood Rooster, at 05 October, 2006 10:00  

  • Umm...liboutlaw...

    Studds flew a 17 year old page to escape US laws. And he did, and admitted it. The difference is that Studds was defiant and was reelected to five more terms in congress by morons like you (and Conyers, Kennedy, etc.)

    Studds did worse than Foley, and was applauded by Democrat leadership and reelected by Democrats with no problem.

    Crane resigned and ended his career.

    Nice try, though.

    By Blogger Good Lieutenant, at 05 October, 2006 11:16  

  • More shameful hackery by Maloney.

    "mainstream media outlets that have pushed this story to amazing extremes"

    Is DrudgeReport included in mainstream media? He has pushed it more than anyone.

    By Blogger Elmonica, at 05 October, 2006 12:05  

  • I love how this is now all about the democrats...

    If I was a democratic stratiist I would tell my people to shut up... The right is just going to eat itself on this one. A large part of the republican base is fundy christians who's main reason for voting republican is because they were sold a morality contract. Any kind of sexual misconduct causes these peoples blood to boil. Gay underage sex may cause their heads to explode.

    The republicans have tripped on their own dick... this scandle is going to go on for at least a month. If Hastert resigns then there will be an emerency session of congress and they will have to propose a new speaker. If he doesnt resign and new details come out....

    Ya gotta belive that more revilations on this issue will be forthcoming. We havent heard all the details yet..

    Now its all about the failure of the republican leadership. The critial piece now is when did they know about Foleys pedaphilia and what steps did they take to cover it up.

    Like almost all scandals… the big damage comes from the coverup not the event itself.

    Republicans are pretty much screwed on this issue...

    By Blogger WinterBear TrueHeart, at 05 October, 2006 12:29  

  • All the heads of the hydra are awake this morning, including a new one. That's nice.

    Enjoy this scandal while it lasts, I suspect. The Democratic October surprise went off a little early, I think.

    I think that the Republican surprise will be sprung a little closer to the election.

    It's an old American tradition, like unveiling new car models every fall. Both sides usually have one on tap.

    However, it used to be that you had to spring the surprise early to give it time to percolate. Now, if you give it too much time, it gets discredited. Think Dan Rather.

    By Blogger Lokki, at 05 October, 2006 13:00  

  • Drudge, the ultimate "blame the kids" apologist (you, Brian, are a very close second, by your own choice) does some quickie-math that may or may not be either correct or relevant to the entire circumstances, and suddenly everyone else is wrong?

    Until the full measure of all facts is taken, I call that straw + grasping.

    So, so weak.

    By Blogger TJ, at 05 October, 2006 15:29  

  • Well well well... Perhaps the Democrat party - and those on the left - were misled once again? So EAGER to gain power, their lust blinds them...


    **World Exclusive**
    **Must Credit the DRUDGE REPORT**

    According to two people close to former congressional page Jordan Edmund, the now famous lurid AOL Instant Message exchanges that led to the resignation of Mark Foley were part of an online prank that by mistake got into the hands of enemy political operatives, the DRUDGE REPORT can reveal.

    According to one Oklahoma source who knows the former page very well, Edmund, a conservative Republican, goaded an unwitting Foley to type embarrassing comments that were then shared with a small group of young Hill politicos. The prank went awry when the saved IM sessions got into the hands of political operatives favorable to Democrats.

    The primary source, an ally of Edmund, adamantly proclaims that the former page is not a homosexual. The prank scenario was confirmed by a second associate of Edmund. Both are fearful that their political careers will be affected if they are publicly brought into the matter.

    The prank scenario only applies to the Edmund IM sessions and does not necessarily apply to any other exchanges between the former congressman and others.

    The news come on the heels that Edmund has hired former Timothy McVeigh attorney, Stephen Jones.



    By Blogger Lynnwood Rooster, at 05 October, 2006 16:02  

  • lr - you missed a very salient point:

    "The prank scenario only applies to the Edmund IM sessions and does not necessarily apply to any other exchanges between the former congressman and others."

    And another - this STILL doesn't excuse the ex-senator's behavior, nor the failure of the republican leadership to follow up...

    I do understand, however, that, as a partisan, you wish to focus on the unimportant right-wing supportive facts, rather than the facts about the wrong behaviors.


    By Blogger TJ, at 05 October, 2006 17:34  

  • TJ:

    I believe that you wish to focus on the unimportant left-wing supportive scandals, rather than the facts about the the Democratics' lack of any substantive positions on important matters.

    Having said that, I wish to give you full credit for the coherence of your posts.... miles ahead of your compatriots. We may disagree, but at least you're talking about issues. Kudos.... (although you're still all wrong).

    By Blogger Lokki, at 05 October, 2006 17:49  

  • TJ,

    No, I think it's pretty clear... Foley wrote some questionable e-mails and was told to knock it off. And he did.

    These IMs are PRECEDING the e-mails, and were not known by the leadership. When they came to light, Foley was asked to resign. Which he did.

    So we have questionable behavior being challenged. And it worked. Then more blatant stuff comes out, and he's booted.

    Where did the leadership mis-step? What is the problem? The issue was addressed at every step.

    What's the problem?

    By Blogger Lynnwood Rooster, at 05 October, 2006 17:54  

  • lr - again, you simply don't keep up on current events - unless it's posted on Drudge, apparently...

    It is still being determined just how far back the "foley problem" goes, let alone who knew about it when...

    At the very least, some have know about foley's issues for years, and senators and their staff are pointing fingers back and forth saying "they knew/no we didn't/no they didn't/yes we did" for days now...

    You have fun in your delusion, though...and don't worry - your rooster never wakes me up in the morning. I sleep like the dead.

    By Blogger TJ, at 05 October, 2006 18:07  

  • Lokki!

    Intellectual disagreement is just fine by me.

    Nicely put, and well said.

    Thank you!

    By Blogger TJ, at 05 October, 2006 18:08  

  • Hey Brian,

    I just today received the COMPLETE findings from Commissionernof the New York City Department of Investigation (DOI) ROSE GILL HEARN.

    I recived the following documents.

    1) A press release about the report
    2) A pdf of the report
    3) A pdf of the report's exhibits
    4) Photos that may interest you.

    I haven’t yet read the complete report but I did do a complete search for “AL FRANKEN” in all the documents and to my surprise I couldn’t find his name listed anywhere.

    It would seem to me that after more than a year of you trashing Mr. Franken you need to take a deep breath and publish a retraction. He’s an employee regardless of what his salary is. He was not management of the OLD COMPANY that truly was part of the scam.

    I think you knew that all along.

    I’ll check back so I can read your apology to Al Franken. It does take a big man to admit they were wrong. . . Just look at President Bush, oh no that’s wrong he doesn’t make mistakes just ask him.


    By Blogger mick, at 05 October, 2006 18:28  

  • TJ,

    I just assume that a person is innocent until proven guilty. It seems that doesn't apply when coming from those on the political left...

    Why the calls from the left for Hastert to resign? Based upon what's known now, that's not a at all realistic. Others are assuming that there must be more to the story, so Hastert must be guilty...

    Let's wait and see what happens, then...

    By Blogger Lynnwood Rooster, at 05 October, 2006 19:45  

  • We need a new government.

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 05 October, 2006 22:02  

  • Hash - that is precisely what we will get come November, unless the GOP house caucus performs a quick leadership change in time for the November election.

    Now, then. I would like to send out a message to my conservative-leaning brethren on the board:

    Knock it off.

    Y'all are spinning yourselves into the ground. Whether this was a 'prank' gone awry, whether the individuals involved may or may not have been above the 'age of consent', whether there was a 'fake blog' set up to trap somebody, you keep running face-first into this particular brick wall: You are attempting to condone or excuse bad behavior on the part of Foley by citing bad behavior on the part of others.

    There are people who are, at this very moment, trying to turn this into another version of Dan Rather and Mary Mapes going with the fake documents on 60 Minutes. The trouble is, Foley did it. He knows it, you know it too. No amount of trying to dig at the source of the allegations will change that fact.

    It. Must. Stop.

    The facts is this:
    1) Foley in his position as a member of the House of Representatives, acted in a completely repugnant manner toward congressional pages. Toward children. Soliciting them in manners that, were it done to my child, would have me hunting Foley down with a 12-gauge and a pickaxe.
    2) But now, the GOP "backlash" is now in full effect, with lots of spinning and obfuscation about who IM'ed or E-mailed what to whom, and who may have been 16 or 17 or 18 or 54 or (insert DeanScream here). The end effect of all this "backlash" conversation is that it keeps the subject on the front pages, just where the Donks want to keep it. And as long as the spin continues, there it will remain, but with the core fact above still coming up in the front of the story.

    The proper response from the GOP leadership should have been as follows: "Foley's a scumbag, and he has resigned. We have been negligent in the oversight of the page program, and we intend to fix that, rapidly. To that end, we're investigating what went down. As soon as the investigation is over, we'll get back to you with the details. And if we find that anyone had prior knowledge of Foley's activities and did not report them fully and completely, their asses will be publicly barbecued on live TV, no matter the party or position!. Until that time, all parties deserve some measure of respect and privacy whilst the investigation is conducted."

    Instead, we got Hastert and Boehner and Reynolds trying a three-headed game of three-card monte.

    Well, folks, I call bull. Because there is no effin' way that anyone can convince me that the leadership ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE did not know about what was going on, but instead took an wink-and-a-nod approach to it. If someone told Foley to "knock it off," then the problem was already known and should have been dealt with forcefully at that time.

    God Damnit, YOU DO NOT TELL ANYONE ACTING LIKE A PEDOPHILE TO "KNOCK IT OFF" and then go on treating them like there just another member of the club.

    It is no longer a matter of right or wrong anymore. It's a matter of trust.

    Quick question: Would anyone here send their children to DC to be a congressional page?

    And if you can't trust congress with your children, how on earth can you trust them with the governance of the nation as a whole?

    IMHO, all 435 congresscritters should be voted out of office.

    And anyone who had any knowledge of Foley's predations, whether in congress or in the press (*cough*BrianRoss*cough*), but did not report them to the authorities should go to federal bang-me-in-the-ass prison.

    By Blogger JD, at 06 October, 2006 00:19  

  • OK, go ahead and keep hammering the Studds issue. if that's the only Democrat you can find then be my guest. But while you're hitting on that, check out the other skeletons in the Republicans' closet here.

    That site provides a laundry list of republican sex offenders, including a Party leader from Washington convicted of 6 counts of raping his own daughters.

    The Republican party is nothing more than a bunch of repressed, hypocritical perverts.

    And the disappearing backlash some on here are claiming? WAKE UP! You honestly believe the religious right is going to support the Grand Old Pedophiles? They won't. Not that they will support the Dems; they just won't vote. If the evangelicals do not vote, the conservatives do not have a leg to stand on.

    By Blogger hardcore conservative genious, at 06 October, 2006 09:49  

  • oh, i almost forgot to include the link to the religious right story.


    By Blogger hardcore conservative genious, at 06 October, 2006 09:52  

  • Rolling on the floor in laughter. Drudge blames the children, calls it a prank!! prank or not, why is foley responding to it. If someone 16 IM'd me, I would not be asking how about how he masturbates!!! CONS are seriously out of their minds. Anything to defend the GOP, anything!! I have never seen anything so pathetic. Seriously. It is up to Real Republicans (such as JD) to face the problem, not spin it!!! The problem is JD, 80% of your fellow conservatives are not conservatives, they are brainwaashed by Limbaugh, Hannity, Drudge, etc etc. They do not even understand what being a conservative is, it means ACCOUNTABILITY, not defending a crime by spinning in a desperate and illogical manner.
    Drudge's claim to it being a prank by the kids, is stupid. IF a 16 year old pranked JD, maloney, or myself, we would not respond by saying "did you spank it this weekend".
    This is logic. when your brain is clouded with punditry, you can not think clear. I'm thinking of leaving this political game, I can't deal with the stupidity anymore. You can not discuss issues with people like Maloney and Loki. They are so twisted with rhetoric, it is impossible. Will i continue the radio show? Maybe, as of now we are in "best of " mode. Too busy with reality to deal with the talk show.

    By Blogger Minister of Propaganda, at 06 October, 2006 10:46  

  • One name:

    Mel Reynolds.

    Had enough? Bad enough he had sex with 15 year old girls. But then he was PARDONED of his conviction by that wonderful paragon of virtue, President Clinton.

    See, Republicans with scandals tend to stay in jail - we don't let them out. Democrats? Heck they give each other a waive all the time...

    By Blogger Lynnwood Rooster, at 06 October, 2006 10:58  

  • I'm still amazed at Fox News repeatedly identifying Foley as a Democrat and getting away with THAT......

    LR, you've already established that you support the molestation of underaged children, there is no need to go any further with it...

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 06 October, 2006 11:06  

  • MOP, just keep on speaking the truth.

    That's the edge the Bush Crime Family and their minions will never have.

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 06 October, 2006 11:07  

  • hey lynwood, want to play name the pedophile. O.K fine. Here ya go!
    * Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper was arrested for soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.

    * Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.

    * Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd was arrested on suspicion of soliciting sex with an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.

    * Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

    * Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.

    * Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.

    * Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano was arrested for sexually molesting a 14-year-old girl.

    * Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.

    * Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.

    * Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.

    * Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography over the internet.

    * Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.

    * Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

    * Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.

    * Republican Committeeman John R. Curtain was charged with molesting a teenage boy and unlawful sexual contact with a minor.

    * Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.

    * Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.

    * Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

    * Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.

    * Republican racist pedophile and United States Senator Strom Thurmond had sex with a 15-year old black girl which produced a child.

    * Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.

    * Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

    * Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced to six years in prison for molesting two 8-year old girls, one of whom appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial.

    * Republican activist Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

    * Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

    * Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.

    * Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.

    * Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

    * Republican campaign chairman Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child and was arrested again five years later on the same charge.

    * Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.

    * Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.

    * Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline was placed under house arrest for child molestation and possession of child pornography.

    * Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

    * Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

    * Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.

    * Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.

    * Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

    * Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced to jail after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

    * Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.

    * Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

    * Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

    * Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.

    * Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.

    * Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).

    * Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.

    * Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.

    * Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.

    * Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.

    * Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.

    * Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.

    * Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.

    * Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

    * Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.

    * Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.

    * Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.

    * Republican businessman Jon Grunseth withdrew his candidacy for Minnesota governor after allegations surfaced that he went swimming in the nude with four underage girls, including his daughter.

    * Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed reverend Steve Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage girls.

    * Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.

    * Republican president of the New York City Housing Development Corp. Russell Harding pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer.

    * Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.

    bu bu bu bu bu bu Clinton!!!!

    By Blogger Minister of Propaganda, at 06 October, 2006 13:04  

  • To summarize the arguments and inferences I'm seeing here:

    1. My party's sex criminals aren't as bad as yours.
    2. Therefore, my party's ideas are obviously better.

    There. Now you can all stop trying to one-up each other.

    By Blogger Snowed In, at 06 October, 2006 13:42  

  • I guess it's hard for the Republicans to admit that they are the real perverts.

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 06 October, 2006 15:18  

  • lr - that's a lie that you've heard from Hannity or Limbaugh or somesuch...

    Clinton did not pardon on the underage sex conviction - he served the full sentence for that, and was already into serving time for bank fraud, or something similar, when clinton _commuted_ the remainder of that sentence.

    Facts straight enough for you, now?

    By Blogger TJ, at 06 October, 2006 15:32  


    and whaddya know - quick google search discovers the truth - Clinton never weighed-in at all on the underage sex sentence.

    The End ;)

    By Blogger TJ, at 06 October, 2006 15:38  

  • Why not deal with today's rampant culture of corruption under the Republicans, rather than looking for a past precedent that justifies the current administration's filthy malfeasance?

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 07 October, 2006 01:46  

  • No sex, eh??

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 08 October, 2006 15:04  

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