The Radio Equalizer: Brian Maloney

01 February 2007

Hal Turner, Denial Of Service Attacks, Talk Radio

HATE TALKER SHUT DOWN

Enemies Break Laws To Harass Racist Host







What's the fastest way to create sympathy for one of your political opponents? This one's easy: simply shut him down.

That's the foolish strategy being employed against racist fringe talker Hal Turner, who has served as the left's punching bag for some time, even though he has no legitimate ties to the conservative movement.

We wrote about Turner just a few weeks ago, but since then, he's been subjected to malicious and downright illegal actions by his foes.

From North Jersey.com:


Cyber foes shut mouth of hate-talk radio host

By PETER J. SAMPSON
STAFF WRITER

An outlaw band of cyber warriors has managed to do what Hal Turner's most ardent opponents haven't – silence the hate-talk radio host from North Bergen, at least for a while.

An anonymous cadre of pranksters has targeted Turner's weekly Internet radio program and Web sites, in escalating attacks over the past two months that have all but put him out of business.

Turner, a white supremacist who has advocated violence against minorities and government officials, is trying to fight back, with a federal lawsuit that accuses five Web sites and "John Does 1-1,000" of engaging in fraud, extortion and racketeering.

Acting as his own attorney, Turner recently asked a judge in Newark to grant an injunction against the Web sites, which he says make the attacks possible. But the judge said he first needs to hear from the defendants -- whoever they may be.

Turner describes his show as a "national treasure" that is "the literal embodiment of the First Amendment to the Constitution." His lawsuit says "people can call in and use any language or terminology they choose to express their thoughts or feelings about social, political, cultural, racial or religious issues, without fear of being censored or cut off."

Under attack

Recent attacks against Hal Turner:

• Callers disrupt a show.

• Pranksters publish the unlisted phone numbers of Turner and his mother, prompting harassing calls.

• Hackers sabotage the computer server hosting his Web sites.

• Pizzas are delivered to his house.

• Truckloads of shipping materials are ordered in his name from eBay and the Postal Service.


Critics say Turner uses his show and Web sites to promote hatred and violence, calling for the murder of federal judges, illegal aliens, Jews and blacks, among others.

"He is a racist. He is viciously anti-immigrant. He's an anti-Semite and he openly urges violence of the worst sort," said Etzion Neuer, regional director of the Anti-Defamation League's New Jersey office.

Although the ADL "cannot condone any of the actions against him," Neuer said, "there's a certain irony that Turner is appealing to the courts when he has previously called for the death of judges ... I don't think any right-thinking person sheds a tear when Turner ceases broadcasting, but we would hope this would happen by legal means."


When failing to openly condemn these illegal actions against Turner, his political opponents are destroying their own credibility. And those responsible for this harassment campaign should be prosecuted. Why go after members of Turner's family?

In addition, how about the pizza parlor that must absorb the cost of these prank delivery orders? Or, the firms that are tricked into sending shipping supplies to Turner's home? They are unfairly taking losses here.

Sure, it's a given that Turner's hate- filled rhetoric is damaging to innocent people (assuming anybody is actually listening), but these antics will only serve to generate sympathy for a man who otherwise doesn't deserve any.

There are ways to deal with Turner without breaking the law. When we take it upon ourselves to determine who should be shut down for expressing unpopular views, no matter how extreme, we're all heading down a very un- American slippery slope.


ANOTHER POINT: if Hal Turner didn't already exist, the left would have to invent him. They're the ones serving as his publicity arm, otherwise, none of us would have ever heard of this obscure extremist.

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25 Comments:

  • i honestly cannot believe that you are condemning people who are cyber-attacking a hate monger.

    you just reached an all-time low for yourself.

    until now, i just thought that you were an idiot, but now i see how full of hate you truly are. you are the lowest form of life on this planet and i seriously hope that you burn in Hell for all eternity for supporting this minister of hate.

    By Blogger liberal outlaw, at 01 February, 2007 12:13  

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    By Blogger TJ, at 01 February, 2007 12:35  

  • Funny Turner ran as a Republican in 2000 in a NJ congressional race, surprise! surprise!!

    I used to appear on a talk show on WBCQ a long time ago. BCQ a short wave station used to broadcast this loon

    By Blogger Minister of Propaganda, at 01 February, 2007 12:40  

  • Sure liberal outlaw, why don't you post your mother's phone number here? What's your home address? Pizzas and mailing supplies are on their way.

    And your website? I don't like it, so I'm going to shut it down.

    Turner's enemies have merely lowered themselves to his level.

    By Blogger Brian Maloney, at 01 February, 2007 12:51  

  • TJ, just because he's a racist doesn't mean it's open season on his mother. You guys are no better than Turner.

    I knew I could count on a couple of you to defend these antics.

    By Blogger Brian Maloney, at 01 February, 2007 12:54  

  • "you guys"? I'm defending such tactics?

    No, of course I'm not.

    However, you're supporting a racist who daily via his website and talk show supports murder of innocents.

    You're sick, Brian. Just sick. Admit it - you're making an effort to bring Hal Turner into the mainstream, and to generate sympathy for him.

    By Blogger TJ, at 01 February, 2007 13:02  

  • TJ, you're not even trying to be honest here. Of course Turner's an idiot.

    But the left's attempts to tie him to mainstream conservatives aren't going to fly. It's a smear campaign.

    That's your real beef here, isn't it?

    By Blogger Brian Maloney, at 01 February, 2007 13:04  

  • "TJ, you're not even trying to be honest here. Of course Turner's an idiot."

    Brian, if you had made that assertion (that turner's an idiot), and given that fact at least as much weight in the two pieces you've done regarding him, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

    "But the left's attempts to tie him to mainstream conservatives aren't going to fly. It's a smear campaign.

    That's your real beef here, isn't it?"

    I don't care.
    I simply don't.

    I don't care about Huffpo at all - have been there, briefly, less times than I have fingers on my left hand.

    I don't care about those who are generating the DoS attacks - they are in fact breaking the law, and should be punished, regardless of their target.

    I don't care about the people phoning Turner's mother. If they break the law in the process, they should be punished.

    If he isn't a conservative, and people on the left are going to make failed attempts at "tying" turner to conservatism - they're failures and the consequences of such are their problems.

    I simply don't care, and don't have any such beef.

    I do care that you have made two attempts now at generating some measure of sympathy for Turner. You simply don't focus on what he represents enough while attacking others.

    You are using Turner as a means to an end - attacking the left...much as you used the woman's death to inappropriately (and without proof) smear Air America Radio.

    You have no decency, no consciense. You literally blind yourself that it's okay to behave the way you do. The ends justifies the means.

    That's what I care about.

    By Blogger TJ, at 01 February, 2007 13:27  

  • Brian,

    This thread illustrates the favorite dictum of the left, the ends justify the means.

    MoP subscribes to it wholeheartedly. Tj is trying to sound reasonable, but his actions belie his words. I'm surprised Hash, and a couple of others haven't joined in on trampling the 1st amendment.

    By Blogger PCD, at 01 February, 2007 13:31  

  • TJ, again, there's no attempt on your part to be honest here. The point is that Turner's opponents are swimming in the sewer with him.

    But instead of addressing the issue at hand, you and a couple of others here continue to use this site's comments section to smear me.

    By Blogger Brian Maloney, at 01 February, 2007 13:33  

  • "But instead of addressing the issue at hand, you and a couple of others here continue to use this site's comments section to smear me."

    Smear you? I'm simply pointing out exactly what you said and did.

    How is that a smear?

    Unlike you, Brian, I think everyone who tries to paint with a broad brush is horrid. Any person doing so from any political affiliation or lack thereof is pathetic and not worthy of any ethical consideration.

    I, personally, do not believe that Hal Turner is representive of the Republican Party or Conservatism.

    Rampant idiocy and hatred is not the preliminary domain of any ideology - it exists everywhere.

    Mind you, I've never seen anyone saying that Hal Turner is the face of conservatism, nor the republican party (and anyone who would do so is a rank idiot)- so I could easily argue that you're conflating anyone mentioning him as a conservative disingenously - oh, wait - I think I just did - and, of course, I'm right!

    I'll give you an example of smearing - stating that the woman who died in Iraq must have found employment at AAR stressful - without ANY evidence - was a smear.

    Do a better job of calling out hal turner for what he is and does, and there won't be much of an argument.

    By Blogger TJ, at 01 February, 2007 13:50  

  • TJ, all you're doing is playing silly games.

    By Blogger Brian Maloney, at 01 February, 2007 13:52  

  • No, Brian - you're just increasing your disingenuousnous-quotient...

    You said up above: "But the left's attempts to tie him to mainstream conservatives aren't going to fly. It's a smear campaign."...

    However, in this post, including the news article you used, you've provided absolutely no new evidence whatsoever about anyone "tie him to mainstream conservatives" - NOTHING.

    All of my comments have been direct and to the point...nothing misdirecting about them at all.

    However, you yourself answered my comments with a direct misdirection.

    Who's playing games?

    Care to blatantly lie some more?

    By Blogger TJ, at 01 February, 2007 14:01  

  • I think you're wasting my time.

    It was the Huffington Post that tried to tie him to mainstream conservatives. That's enough evidence in itself to make a point of it. It's in my first post on the subject.

    By Blogger Brian Maloney, at 01 February, 2007 14:06  

  • TJ

    I, personally, do not believe that Hal Turner is representive of the Republican Party or Conservatism.

    ME:
    If he is not, than how did he get the Republicasn nomination in his congressional district in 2000?

    mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......

    By Blogger Minister of Propaganda, at 01 February, 2007 14:12  

  • Brian
    It was the Huffington Post that tried to tie him to mainstream conservatives


    And conservatives hacks try to discredit the Anti-war movement (such as Ingrham) by poinitng out a few extremists and ignoring the veterans and military families also against the war. Never see you correct them, why not?????

    Again turner got a Republican nomination in his district, obviously enough Republicans in NJ thought he was an acceptable candidate

    By Blogger Minister of Propaganda, at 01 February, 2007 14:15  

  • Brian,

    I think you're repeating yourself.

    You're literally taking this new event - the DoS attacks and phone calls to his family, and regurgitating your assertions about HuffPo - without any NEW EVIDENCE.

    Slow news day?

    You're ridiculous, Brian. I point out the house of cards that is your misdirection, and you have no relevant retort.

    By Blogger TJ, at 01 February, 2007 14:17  

  • I don't think a couple of you here really care about racism anyway.

    Where's your outrage over Senator Biden's racist remarks about Barack Obama? Does Biden get a pass because he's a Democrat?

    By Blogger Brian Maloney, at 01 February, 2007 14:28  

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    By Blogger TJ, at 01 February, 2007 14:39  

  • Wow - why the sudden change of subject? I thought you would prefer people respond to posts you make, rather than raising wholly different issues on their own?

    Biden should resign for what he did. Whatever measures are available to the Senate to penalize him should be undertaken.

    He's a disgrace. And the Democratic Party is disgraceful if they as a body do not hold him wholly accountable.

    Obama is being the "better man", which is the only public political face he can wield in such circumstances - but what Biden said cannot and should not be mistaken - it was a clear demonstration of horrid racism, and cannot be supported.

    By Blogger TJ, at 01 February, 2007 14:48  

  • Brian is of corse using Hannity's talking point of the day

    what a glorius hack

    I heard let's see franken comment on it
    Rhodes, Madow, the whole A.a

    nobody on the left supports Biden another Lieberman Democrat anyway

    hackery brian, the left commented and discredited Biden

    By Blogger Minister of Propaganda, at 01 February, 2007 15:02  

  • alright - this is waaaaay too coincidental...

    anyone else having trouble getting to the front page of Brian's site???

    By Blogger TJ, at 01 February, 2007 16:31  

  • Yay! One strike for decency! Yay!

    Well-spoken additions to the article, Brian. Thank you very much for recognizing the reasonable need to address the concerns I raised.

    In short, you done good (even if it took a little prodding:))...

    However, I must still hold you to task for your last paragraph about the left having need to create an Hal Turner should he not have already existed...that's a ridiculous partisan statement.

    Both sides of the aisle create strawmen to support their own arguments - it's not a "left only" effort.

    By Blogger TJ, at 02 February, 2007 00:21  

  • The world has come to an end.

    I am in essential agreement with Brian Maloney on this article.

    Freedom of speech is freedom of speech for EVERYONE, whether we like their message or not.

    The individuals who've placed Turner under attack appear to have broken the law. I don't believe that they should be immune from the law, just because a majority of Americans (or New Jerseyans, anyway) find his statements irreprehensible.

    Flame away....but freedom of speech applies to the far right, as well as the far left, and every one in between.

    By Blogger hashfanatic, at 02 February, 2007 00:37  

  • Guys, he is a good guy.

    By Blogger Dorothy, at 08 February, 2007 16:35  

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